All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Why am I so worried that Robertson's squad will spend most of the week "having fun in Perth"
The west coast surfing is good I hear.
according to the fat-bottomed armchair experts on this forum Perth only has the airport going for it, so the ABs will be fine...
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Why am I so worried that Robertson's squad will spend most of the week "having fun in Perth"
The west coast surfing is good I hear.
according to the fat-bottomed armchair experts on this forum Perth only has the airport going for it, so the ABs will be fine...
Specifically the departure terminal
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Interesting backline. Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together? Roigard's kicking and playmaking should take a bit of pressure off McKenzie to do everything for 80 mins, which was an issue late in games last year when combined with poor use of the bench in general.
Leicester may be a good selection, as I think he is effectively an extra hard runner in the forwards. Clarke is a better winger, much better in the air - but if our forward pack lacks runners (and it probably will) then LF may be pretty useful. With him and Carter as wings, the Aussies should attack us in the air, and run at Leicester as they do have pace - and us with Tupaea who isn't a usual 13 - so there are obvious points for them to attack.
Tupaea at centre is an interesting one. He was good enough in Super rugby to deserve a decent shot in tests, and with Jordie locked in at 12 I can see the 'best players on the field' attraction. I don't think he's really a natural centre, and after giving Proctor a decent run and seeing his defense improve, pulling him out and putting in a guy who is very likely to have similar defensive issues at first seems risky.
Not sure why they've picked Ioane, as the starting backline looks a good opportunity to go 6-2 with just Ratima and Love. -
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
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Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
Nothing less than a diet of raw meat and barbed wire until the test will suffice. Even then it may not be enough time to make those guys born again hard
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Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
And attack. He and Roigard both want their hands on the ball. Such a contrast to BB who looks like he doesn't want it at all.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
Yeah that's what I was referring to. Neither of them are exactly shrinking violets so it was pretty inspirational from such a new guy more noted for his attacking abilities.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
Was just great to see someone relishing putting a shoulder in.
The hits were as much for him as they were for the cause.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
Was just great to see someone relishing putting a shoulder in.
The hits were as much for him as they were for the cause.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
Was just great to see someone relishing putting a shoulder in.
The hits were as much for him as they were for the cause.
A shame they didn't seem to fire everyone else up
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
On the positive side Carter has shown some nice mongrel ( is that an oxymoron ? ) on defence.
He has shown more desire and ticker than most of the rest of the team. For a seemingly smaller guy, he plays big. We could do with more like him
He man handled both Suaalii and Ikitau within 60 seconds last week.
One of them reminded me of the tackle Kaino made in the 2011 SF
Was just great to see someone relishing putting a shoulder in.
The hits were as much for him as they were for the cause.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
The Roar reporting Tane Edmed will start at 10
I cant see Australia winning with Edmed.
That would be sign of catastrophic failure by the ABs and the coaches.
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Interesting backline. Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together? Roigard's kicking and playmaking should take a bit of pressure off McKenzie to do everything for 80 mins, which was an issue late in games last year when combined with poor use of the bench in general.
Leicester may be a good selection, as I think he is effectively an extra hard runner in the forwards. Clarke is a better winger, much better in the air - but if our forward pack lacks runners (and it probably will) then LF may be pretty useful. With him and Carter as wings, the Aussies should attack us in the air, and run at Leicester as they do have pace - and us with Tupaea who isn't a usual 13 - so there are obvious points for them to attack.
Tupaea at centre is an interesting one. He was good enough in Super rugby to deserve a decent shot in tests, and with Jordie locked in at 12 I can see the 'best players on the field' attraction. I don't think he's really a natural centre, and after giving Proctor a decent run and seeing his defense improve, pulling him out and putting in a guy who is very likely to have similar defensive issues at first seems risky.
Not sure why they've picked Ioane, as the starting backline looks a good opportunity to go 6-2 with just Ratima and Love.@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together?
8th November 2024
Damian McKenzie was named player of the match after a fine performance showing control and flair to help steer his All Blacks side to an assured victory at the Aviva Stadium, scoring 18 points in the process.I'm at a loss at the subsequent selection logic
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Ray does seem to be heading in the right direction. A few put out to pasture.
It's about time Love gets a decent 30 minutes. There's no reason why not. -
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together?
8th November 2024
Damian McKenzie was named player of the match after a fine performance showing control and flair to help steer his All Blacks side to an assured victory at the Aviva Stadium, scoring 18 points in the process.I'm at a loss at the subsequent selection logic
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together?
8th November 2024
Damian McKenzie was named player of the match after a fine performance showing control and flair to help steer his All Blacks side to an assured victory at the Aviva Stadium, scoring 18 points in the process.I'm at a loss at the subsequent selection logic
thats simple
easier to bring mounga back after barrett than dmac performing
