All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Well finished but that scoreline flatters you
Considering we left 9 points on the field with horrible kicking, not really.
20 mins against 14 men and they butchered 10 pts
Congratulations on the moral victory.
Pick your dummy up
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
We deserved a whinge and a smirk tonight.
But NTA was the one who got lucky. -
Best AB performance of the year, arguably. They showed unusual composure and discipline. They varied their game and their defence was much improved. I thought the Jordie-Quinn centre combination was a significant step-up from what we have seen to date and the bench finally made an impact. Nothing brilliant, but given the atrocious conditions they were remarkably accurate. Only DMac’s early misses on what looked like a couple of relatively easy place-kicks let them down. The Wallabies’ backline fluency is a joy to watch but their discipline was poor, reflecting no doubt the pressure the ABs put them under. Praying for Jordan’s knee.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Best AB performance of the year, arguably. They showed unusual composure and discipline. They varied their game and their defence was much improved. I thought the Jordie-Quinn centre combination was a significant step-up from what we have seen to date and the bench finally made an impact. Nothing brilliant, but given the atrocious conditions they were remarkably accurate. Only DMac’s early misses on what looked like a couple of relatively easy place-kicks let them down. The Wallabies’ backline fluency is a joy to watch but their discipline was poor, reflecting no doubt the pressure the ABs put them under. Praying for Jordan’s knee.
Passage in the first half was very good, but there was a lot of catching the ball flat footed and for me it looked a little disjointed with too many players around the ball.
Tough conditions.
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Winning twice in a row. That's a capuchin off the back.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Well finished but that scoreline flatters you
Considering we left 9 points on the field with horrible kicking, not really.
20 mins against 14 men and they butchered 10 pts
Congratulations on the moral victory.
Pick your dummy up
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
Given many predicted an AB loss tonight, a win (and back to back wins for first time in the RC) was a step in the right direction. Oz were up for it and conditions were foul, but ABs did enough to warrant a win. It wasn’t a fluke.
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Well finished but that scoreline flatters you
Considering we left 9 points on the field with horrible kicking, not really.
20 mins against 14 men and they butchered 10 pts
Congratulations on the moral victory.
Pick your dummy up
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
Given many predicted an AB loss tonight, a win (and back to back wins for first time in the RC) was a step in the right direction. Oz were up for it and conditions were foul, but ABs did enough to warrant a win. It wasn’t a fluke.
Although I feel like the halftime score flattered us
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I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
Impossible. DMac was complete crap tonight, we were told (I wasn't at all impressed with most of his kicking TBF).
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I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
He puts the shoulder in and always draws two opponents. Lacked a little accuracy at least 3 rucks I recall where he could’ve been better.
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I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
Don't think there's many on here suggesting dropping him. He's a fine player. Hasn't been in top form during captaincy though.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
QT makes you earn your crust tackling him.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
I have no doubt at all that most of them were second man entries as well
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Not to labour the point but it really is pointless to pick Love just to give him 8 mins on the wing.
I get that Razor may not want to throw him into the deep end but if you put a player on the bench and just give him a few minutes out of position it's clear you don't rate him. May as well just pick a winger in that case because it's clear you don't think he has what it takes.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Dyer's first try in pro rugby. Cool.
That is impressive since has wasn’t playing.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Dyer's first try in pro rugby. Cool.
That is impressive since has wasn’t playing.
Yeah, sorry. Getting Georges muddled.
Fixed in original post.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
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Tosi is a must selection on the bench. He constantly made the hard yards. For me, Lomax starts or is not on the team sheet. Having ST, Bower, Tosi, PT and Sititi, all powerful carriers, was the main reason why the All Blacks were dominant during the last quarter. At this level, rugby is a big men game.
