All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I must be odd one out. Scott Barrett is still one of my first choice forwards. Love the way he carries, hits hard in tackles and rucks. Good that we have 4 locks now that are playing well but he is not going to be dropped anytime soon.
Don't think there's many on here suggesting dropping him. He's a fine player. Hasn't been in top form during captaincy though.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
QT makes you earn your crust tackling him.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I'd love to see the tackle stats
Newell: 19
Scott Barrett: 15
Savea: 15 (7 in the last 20)
Holland and Lakai: 14
Parker: 12
Barrett: 11You get 50% of RD’s defensive effectiveness just playing him for 20!
I have no doubt at all that most of them were second man entries as well
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Not to labour the point but it really is pointless to pick Love just to give him 8 mins on the wing.
I get that Razor may not want to throw him into the deep end but if you put a player on the bench and just give him a few minutes out of position it's clear you don't rate him. May as well just pick a winger in that case because it's clear you don't think he has what it takes.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Dyer's first try in pro rugby. Cool.
That is impressive since has wasn’t playing.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Dyer's first try in pro rugby. Cool.
That is impressive since has wasn’t playing.
Yeah, sorry. Getting Georges muddled.
Fixed in original post.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
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Tosi is a must selection on the bench. He constantly made the hard yards. For me, Lomax starts or is not on the team sheet. Having ST, Bower, Tosi, PT and Sititi, all powerful carriers, was the main reason why the All Blacks were dominant during the last quarter. At this level, rugby is a big men game.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
Ahhh did you watch the RWC final? They absolutely do.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
Ahhh did you watch the RWC final? They absolutely do.
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
If D Mac nailed his kicks it would have been a good score line.
6 points left out there.
Will forgive the first missed penalty.
Penalties alter the course of the match. Never count them unless they're after the siren
Ahhh did you watch the RWC final? They absolutely do.
Ahhh but you understand that if you kick the penalty that play restarts from halfway? And there is no saying what could have happened at that point in terms of "leaving points out there".
The opposition could recover the restart and score down the other end. Yes they could do the same from the 22m restart but it isn't the same course of action.
A conversion miss is definitely more likely to be "points left out there" because it doesn't alter what happens next.
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Solid win in the end. Aussie didn’t live up to the hype second half though.
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Solid win in the end. Aussie didn’t live up to the hype second half though.
Reiko Ioane was very solid defensively coming on at centre. Aussie backline never looked threatening out wide once he came on.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Well finished but that scoreline flatters you
Considering we left 9 points on the field with horrible kicking, not really.
20 mins against 14 men and they butchered 10 pts
Congratulations on the moral victory.
Pick your dummy up
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Well finished but that scoreline flatters you
Considering we left 9 points on the field with horrible kicking, not really.
20 mins against 14 men and they butchered 10 pts
Congratulations on the moral victory.
Pick your dummy up
Deserved win but scoreline flattered you
Personally don't think it did. Pretty fair reflection overall.
We were well and truly flattered at the break. Shouldn't have been that far in front. But at the end a margin of 2 x converted tries felt about right.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Solid win in the end. Aussie didn’t live up to the hype second half though.
Reiko Ioane was very solid defensively coming on at centre. Aussie backline never looked threatening out wide once he came on.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Solid win in the end. Aussie didn’t live up to the hype second half though.
Reiko Ioane was very solid defensively coming on at centre. Aussie backline never looked threatening out wide once he came on.
Looked sharpish with the ball too.
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Random thought: was impressed with the handling in the second half.
Was hoping we would just bang it into the corners, but holding possession in that weather was impressive.
Did we back off playing on the advantage line a bit because of the rain, thus not putting ourselves under pressure?
(Hear's me talking about us and we
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Wouldn’t mind seeing for the EOYT:
1.Williams
2.Taylor
3. Newell
4. Barrett
5. Holland
6. Va’ai
7. Papalili
8. Lakai
9. Roigard
10. Dmac/Love
11.Clarke
12. Tupaea
13. LF/Proctor
14. Jordan
15. J Barrett@jimmyb bro casually dropped Carter like he wasn’t one of the best players on the field for the third week in a row. What a joke.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
QT makes you earn your crust tackling him.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I would beg to disagree - DMac is a very, very average intl 10 who is easily shut down. BB (field kicking aside) is a better option still, though it pains me to say it.
I don't know why our MF looked better than it has all season. But I'd like to see if DMac was part of the answer to that question
Not having a go at Proctor but QT asked questions of the Wallabies.
The five eighths passed to him more in first 20 than they did to Proctor in whole 80!
From my armchair view it just appears that QT runs a better angle, from deeper and with a bit of pace.
QT makes you earn your crust tackling him.
Yeah, he runs good hard direct lines, which helps when the ball gets static. His game looks suited for international rugby.
