All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Worst All Blacks Selectors Ever! Some of their selections just tend to be so random. A flawless lineout on Saturday and then they drop Holland. It just doesn't make sense.
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Rieko is back, on the bench?
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I don’t mind Lakai being selected because I think he will play better than what we’ve seen from Sititi this year.
But it comes back to the fact that Ardie, Lakai and Sititi should be fighting out for two position - starting 7 and bench 7/8 cover.
LJ not considered. He’s not injured, but I wonder whether he’s at the match fitness levels yet?
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
dont think savea and lakai both starting is a good idea
Surprised Robertson didn’t stick Sititi at blindside too.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@ploughboy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
dont think savea and lakai both starting is a good idea
Surprised Robertson didn’t stick Sititi at blindside too.
Actually, I’m surprised they didn’t do that and have Kirifi on the bench.
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Clueless loose forward selections.
LF being in the team is a joke.
Jordan is a winger, average fullback. We could be getting minutes into Love.
@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
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I don't have much to add really, already lost faith that these guys know what they are doing. We have so much loose forward talent in NZ but we can't seem to pick a trio that can even compete at this level. Lakai, Savea and Sititi all in the 23 is just so stupid, despite the fact that I really want to see Lakai get good minutes as I think he has a very high ceiling.
Agree on Jordan. We've taken the worlds premiere winger and turned him into an average fullback instead. If it ain't broke don't fucking fix it, his try scoring record on the wing is unbelievable. At fullback we just expose his issues defensively and under the high ball.
How long do you think it'll take for these guys to realise that Super ≠ test footy?
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@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
Sorry for expecting more of the All Blacks than whatever this is.
Jordan has been mixed at Fullback, great on the wing. He's not good "both sides of the ball".
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Unavailable for selection: Tyrel Lomax (thumb), Caleb Clarke (ankle), Beauden Barrett (shoulder), Ethan de Groot (concussion), Ollie Norris (back), Emoni Narawa (rib fracture), Timoci Tavatavanawai (fractured radius).
It will be interesting to see how the lineout goes without Holland. Parker may have to be used more.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
It will be interesting to see how the lineout goes without Holland. Parker may have to be used more.
He’s a good sized unit. He and Vaa’i are basically the same size, so we should be using him a bit more.
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
Sorry for expecting more of the All Blacks than whatever this is.
Jordan has been mixed at Fullback, great on the wing. He's not good "both sides of the ball".
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Jordan has been mixed at Fullback, great on the wing
In fairness Jordan sucked on the wing in the Boks game in Wellington.
I dont mind the Lakai start given Sititi's form is a shadow of what it was last year and Jacobson has never done anything in test match footy.
Given Clarke's injury I don't mind the selection of Leicester on the wing - he played well there filling in for Telea in RWC 2023 (knock out game?) when Telea got suspended for team protocol breach.
I probably would have kept Holland and rested Vaai.
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
Sorry for expecting more of the All Blacks than whatever this is.
Jordan has been mixed at Fullback, great on the wing. He's not good "both sides of the ball".
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Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 Flook -
Ioane on the bench sits better with me than ALB, he may show some vigor especially if he gets on to replace proctor
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Ioane on the bench sits better with me than ALB, he may show some vigor especially if he gets on to replace proctor
He may never get on then….
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@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Kirwan Cry more. Great for Lakai and LF to get a shot to prove themselves. Will is a world-class Fullback, are we seriously judging him based on the 1-2 rusty games he had against the Pumas/Boks
Martin Guptill could count the number of world class players in this team on his bad foot and Will Jordan at fullback wouldn’t be one of them. He might have potential to get there but this coaching setup makes players worse, not better. If he’s still around in 2028, we’ll see how he gets on.
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@Kirwan ”Expecting more” but you’re complaining about someone that isn’t even apart of the problem this team has right now
@upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@Kirwan ”Expecting more” but you’re complaining about someone that isn’t even apart of the problem this team has right now
This team has problems across the park, and Jordan is very much part of the problem in the back three. He's never going to be great under the high ball or on defense, but at least on the wing we minimise those weaknesses while still making the most of his attacking threat ball in hand. I can't for the life of me understand why we'd move him.
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Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 Flook@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wallaby side:
1 Slipper
2 Pollard
3 AAA
4 Frost
5 Skelton
6 Hooper
7 McReight
8 Wilson (c)
9 Gordon
10 Edmed
11 Daugunu
12 Ikitau
13 JAS
14 Potter
15 Jorgensen16 Nasser
17 Robertson
18 Tupou
19 Williams
20 Valetini
21 Lonergan
22 JOC
23 FlookThis may go unnoticed by the in-fighting around AB selection. From what I've seen - most Ferners/NZers will start watching the game with zero knowledge of who "we"'re playing against... but all manner of outrage around our team.
I'd like to make an informed comment on that team but... I'm frankly no better.
