All Blacks 2026
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@chimoaus Kirk said Razor doesn't get paid out in press conference.
Paid out or paid out the contract? I'd guess he'll be getting gardening leave cash.
I assume, with no knowledge at all, that they reached an agreement where Razor has resigned and will get some kind of payout and a discount on his non compete (which is likely unenforceable anyway from a legal standpoint but might keep some teams away from a moral standpoint).
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While Kirk said Razor won't be getting paid out the final two years of his contract. It is highly likely there will be a set amount in an early termination clause.
Kirk also said there is a stand down period before Razor can work work another tier one nation. Stated it is about a year.
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@SouthernMann so he can line up England after the world cup. Don't let Hoskins near the Tyne bridge.
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@Nepia although he's the architect of his own demise, I surmise that Robinson has done him absolutely no favours.
Surely a competent CEO would have stepped in when he got wind that the All Black coach he was instrumental in appointing (and I don't for a second believe otherwise) wasn't in fact the coach?
Surely such a mythical CEO would've heard and acted on the rumblings of discontent?
Either way it is apparent to all now that Razor was appointed to the position without the necessary grounding, experience and support. Hopefully NZR acknowledge this and have acted to ensure that
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
Surely a competent CEO would have stepped in
This reflects poorly on Robinson, as well as Dame Patsy and the previous board.
Kirk has made a big call, and time will tell. It seems right based on feedback, but crikey.
Also triggers the need to look at the appointment process. Experience in various fields is important. @Victor-Meldrew and I were vocal about him not necessarily being a miracle worker, while hoping he would be. Very disappointing reign, conservative and insular are the first two words that spring to mind. Where's the bravery in selections? Where's the bloke who dropped Crockett for a final?
All the best to Razor, hopefully a better trajectory with JJ and Kirk
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
Ellison
Kidwell.
TBF, he might be a decent defence coach but I'd prefer not to have anyone involved in the 2017 Kiwis in the ABs, especially not the guy in charge of that clusterfuck.
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@DurryMexted said in All Blacks 2026:
Wasnt Nick Evans name floating around here for a while a couple months ago? Have his and JJ paths ever crossed before?
Yes that was me. Conversations were held and apparently are still off and on. Latest on Evans is he interviewed for teams in Japan. Haven’t heard anything since.
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Full respect to David Kirk having the balls to make the tough call .
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia weren't Argentina big movers when he was there?
You're as bad as ratpoo with your need to always bring league into it.
Woah, that's a bit nasty.
Not sure if his time with Cheika was the rise period for Argentina or not, it might be. I'm too lazy to search.
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Today certainly didn't disappoint. Moving Razor on had to happen after reading everything on this forum and how ordinary we've been for the last 2 years.
Mark Watson must read this forum as he has called for Ardie Savea to be dropped completely from the next ABs coach listening to the Devlin podcast just before.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@Nepia weren't Argentina big movers when he was there?
You're as bad as ratpoo with your need to always bring league into it.
Woah, that's a bit nasty.
Not sure if his time with Cheika was the rise period for Argentina or not, it might be. I'm too lazy to search.
I remember their aggressive defence being a factor when they got their first win against us
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Speaking of Argentina. Kenny Lynn has done great there. I honestly think they're one of the best attacking teams in world rugby.
