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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    With the Cartel we had 3 coaches with top tier test team HC experience who were able to succesfully co-exist. This is the sort of model we need to aim for again

    True, but which top tier coaches are content to be Assistants, accept the lower salary and for whom?

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    With the Cartel we had 3 coaches with top tier test team HC experience who were able to succesfully co-exist. This is the sort of model we need to aim for again

    True, but which top tier coaches are content to be Assistants, accept the lower salary and for whom?

    Schmidt, Tony Brown, Evans - and let's not ignore John Mitchell

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    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2026:

    40 years on - maybe the Baby Blacks could be back this season...

    Jeez… 40 years!!! I remember watching this at my mates place.

    Was that David Kirk’s 1st game as AB captain?

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    @westie_boy said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2026:

    40 years on - maybe the Baby Blacks could be back this season...

    Jeez… 40 years!!! I remember watching this at my mates place.

    Was that David Kirk’s 1st game as AB captain?

    Possibly... he was Captain that day.... Mark Brooke Cowden.. remember him!

    https://stats.allblacks.com/match-centre/report/All-Blacks-France-28-June-1986

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    @westie_boy said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2026:

    40 years on - maybe the Baby Blacks could be back this season...

    Jeez… 40 years!!! I remember watching this at my mates place.

    Was that David Kirk’s 1st game as AB captain?

    Yes.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2026:

    @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2026:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2026:

    Check out 3.34:

    Anyone else getting weird vibes from this clip??

    Ardie going through his gospel, looks like a cult leader.

    And everyone clicking their fingers to show support rather than clapping like most normal humans, as if to indicate they are more aware and morally righteous for clicking in a room where I assume no one in it has high sensitivity to noise considering they play in packed stadiums??

    And then why is he going through counting the number of Islanders/fijians in the team that are starting and celebrating as if a quota has been met?

    Our diversity should be celebrated and rightfully so..but the vibe here feels more divisive as opposed to inclusive.

    I'm happy Razor is gone, but I get toxic vibes from Ardie, and worry the more he sticks around the more he is influencing the newbies joining the group ie Sititi and co.

    Albeit I also cringe seeing the golfing group in the ABs as well.

    Starting to look like a cliche high school movie from the outside with all the cliques.

    Exactly why I posted it.

    Would we have got that apparent clique if the boss acted differently?

    Maybe not.

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    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:

    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

    It was bad enough with a Tokoroan being a big part of the review team.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:

    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

    It was bad enough with a Tokoroan being a big part of the review team.

    Haha!

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    As an aside... JJ was lined up as a replacement way before the review was due.

    NZR knew this was happening.

    That is apparently what happened the past 2 times isnt it? Fozzie was all but appointed before the fact, same with Razor, like to think Kirk is smart enough to see the current process is flawed and has us where we are now.

    Weren't a couple of coaches critical at the time of it all, both times?

    Re Brown, wasnt it well publicised that both Fozzie and Razor wanted him in thier team, but he only wanted to work under JJ for the ABs?

    I think having assistants apply as well post appointing the Head Coach and he can go through the process and hire those he wants rather than having to assemble his team of coaches before he goes in?)

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:

    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

    No it wouldn't and I think it is something we would benefit from.

    It has been a long time since NZ were leading the world in playing evolution. That now sits in primarily in SA/Europe.

    We are in a bubble playing domestic rugby with NZ and Aus teams, who play a similar style to us but dont do it as well.

    It would be advantageous to get IP fom outside our bubble

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:

    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

    It was bad enough with a Tokoroan being a big part of the review team.

    That's a village in Samoa isn't it...

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    Rassie has just tweeted a meme that Tony Brown isn’t leaving

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    With the Cartel we had 3 coaches with top tier test team HC experience who were able to succesfully co-exist. This is the sort of model we need to aim for again

    True, but which top tier coaches are content to be Assistants, accept the lower salary and for whom?

    Is an assistant coach role with the All Blacks not still a promotion for those currently coaching Super Rugby? Would being an assistant coach of the All Blacks not be better than never being involved at all?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    As an aside... JJ was lined up as a replacement way before the review was due.

    NZR knew this was happening.

    Sauce?

    Speculation

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    x.com/i/status/2012612958849830963

    Old man uses AI to shitpost on X

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    Make of this what you will:

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    It would be nice to hear from Tony Brown himself.

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    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2026:

    In all this talk of coaches would it behoove the ABs to try and add some foreign talent somewhere along the line?

    Rassie employs non South Africans (Jerry Flannery as well as TB) probably for the express reason so that he doesn't have a biased echo chamber. An outsider perspective.

    It was bad enough with a Tokoroan being a big part of the review team.

    That's a village in Samoa isn't it...

    It's in the south sea islands.

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    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    The guy going for the head coach should, IMO, be able to say who he wants to work with and also that they want to work with him.

    The applicants should indicate to the board who their preferred coaching group would be (based on previous discussions), even if that info remains confidential. The last thing you want is for the head coach to promise you a group of A-level assistants and end up with B- or C-level.

    Remember that Foster didn't get his preferred assistants either as that included Ryan and Brown.

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