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    Springboks v All Blacks 2
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @Crucial Yeah πŸ‘ , what I wrote was partly aimed not so much at Squidge etc but more why we don't get decent mainstream rugby analysis, apart from maybe Nick Bishop who's a pro, plus in the UK the Telegraph can be okay e.g. this analysis by Steffan Thomas - paywalled but disable JS πŸ˜‰

    Aug 13, 2022

    What New Zealand changed to pull off an unthinkable victory over South Africa

    What New Zealand changed to pull off an unthinkable victory over South Africa

    Telegraph Sport analyses how the All Blacks got back to winning ways in impressive fashion over the Springboks

    Tactically it was deliberate trade-offs right? That maul defense pinching in with Cane and Ardie flanking is a thing of beauty. It worked just, negates the Boks and plays to the AB's strengths i.e. more mobile out wide but jeeze the Boks could easily have score a couple more on another day? (foot in touch, Rieko and Jordan at 43:49 snuff out a 3-on-2)

    Maybe related that for Argentina, SA have brought back Kwagga Smith into the 23 albeit on the bench

    Next RwC, not so much between have the Boks, Ireland, France, ABs and Eddie can always knock out at least one of them. Gonna be so tactical and game-by-game. Please shoot anyone (normally an aussie) who wants to remove the maul from the game btw


  • Springboks v All Blacks 2
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    I rewatched the defensive system as they were cut apart out wide so many times. The loose trio defended very narrow to negate the Boks strengths (maul - watch Cane and Savea each side on every maul, plus pressure at scrum time):

    • Mounga is more exposed without loose forward cover
    • Havili tends to cut in to help Mounga, leaving Rieko unsure at times
    • Rieko imo has a natural tendency to (a) cut in anyway or (b) track Havili too close
    • Either way it leaves them narrow and either the winger having to shoot or Rieko having to make a cover tackle or both

    Gametime: 36:04, 39:53, 41:02, 43:48, 45:47 (well tbh the whole defense system doesn't reset here - 6/7/8/10/12/14 all within about 10 metres). 51:22 looked perfect defense by Mounga, Havili, Rieko and they still got flanked at 51:40

    (not sure if anyone noticed in-game but Lomax gets lucky at 25:46, a no-arms tackle on Vermeulen looked a dead-set yellow)


  • Springboks v All Blacks 2
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @sparky said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    Squidgey's take.

    One of the few of his I have managed to watch right through (maybe because he was being complimentary to the ABs πŸ˜‰ )

    Makes a very good point at the end. The ABs have shown that they have the ability now to adjust to what the opposition showed the week before. That is a very different proposition to an EOYT where you go in fresh each week against a side waiting to ambush you (just like the RWC) and it will be very interesting to see how that goes this year. Last year it didn't go so well especially against a French team that, since their resurgence, was a bit of an unknown quantity. In that game we did adjust on the fly but couldn't make the adjustments stick long enough.

    Looking way too far forward to the RWC we have one game that will presumably be our biggest hurdle and that is the quarterfinal.
    Let the opener against France play out. It doesn't really matter if we come first or second in the pool. Take a standard game against them and gather information for a possible future meeting. It is the quarter against SA or Ireland that we need to target and plan for. Luckily for us both of these teams have pretty set styles. Sure they will tweak some stuff up but we know that Ireland base themselves around being very organised and drilled. Disrupting that is the key and we can watch their game against SA to see what happens there.

    I rewatched the game slowly AND Squidge. Squidge reminds me why I stopped watching him ... he gets orgasmic about pod systems and ends up equating a lot of micro in-game stuff done well with actual "strategy"

    I saw much simpler things than Squidge like Frizzel improving the backrow balance and overall workrate, the pack being far more cohesive, Mounga's movement and passing giving a lot front-foot ball (Rieko in space etc), that patterns work better because he doesn't drift, that Jordie plays a traditional 15 role (strong boot, hits the line at the right times), and no Beauden 'golden-boy' Barrett trying to play 10 and 15

    Looked like the coaches did KISS principle, people knew exactly what they were doing and credit to the coaches however that happened

    Tactically I got the impression the AB's are caught between trying to move from a drift defense to a rush defense as the line seemed disjointed ... ironically it may have helped as SA played more open rugby which suited the ABs, and tired the Boks. Credit for a win at Jo-berg but I really wonder if that performance would have beaten Ireland with Sexton, or France. Part of that defensive line may be that the ABs were putting an extra forward into the breakdown though? ... anyway that's what decent analysis might have looked at

    I know the ABs love a power winger but even his missed tackle aside, I'm unconvinced on Caleb Clarke - yes he'll make a bust or maybe two each game but ... decision-making / heads-up rugby, workrate, finishing, linkage all doesn't seem AB level. The Boks negated him by kicking to him, that breakdown in comms with Jordan etc.

    I didn't notice in-game but THAT Mounga turnover if you watch it again?
    Mounga changes his mind and decides to take the hit ... there are 3-4 forwards who were meters ahead of Clarke who have read it (5,7,16,17). Clarke is ball-watching and remains totally static (gametime 57:47-57:50) meaning first Mounga has to go around him, and then Clarke's total lack of movement then ends up also slowing them getting to the breakdown too. Yeah it's all split second stuff - but hey, that's rugby at this level

    Is Sevu Reece injured? Sevu actually always surprise me and seems to offer more than I expect

    Not a kiwi, just a fan πŸ˜‰


  • Foster, Robertson etc
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    From afar that was an oustanding performance, Jo-burg is just a cauldron of fire - no bigger test

    • Tactics were on-point 'suddenly' and people knew what they were doing - Schmidt's influence plus Ryan?

    • Whitelock rolled back the years, irreplacable on that form

    • S. Barrett stood up

    • Frizzel stood up

    • Mounga looked like a real game manager, and Havili looked like he knew what to expect

    • Everyone made mistakes incl. Mounga, Havili, Fizzel but they stuck to a plan and still won

    Personal views moving to the RWC?

    • Need consistent selection but -

    • Rieko to 11 not Clarke and ALB to 13 when back (Goodhue too slow), BB stays on the bench

    • Jordie Barrett didn't look like Bambi-on-ice these days - made the right plays and has a huge boot

    • Frig**ng stability during the rest of the RC including 6/7/8 - experiment only on the NH tour

    • Schmidt to be in charge of per-game tactics - guessing here on Joe's influence but definitely there were positive changes for this game

    • Lock-in Robertson post RWC or others will have him πŸ˜‰

    As a neutral - the rugby was great because the ref was excellent, and a great game to watch, up there with Ireland 2013 (Owens), SA in Jo-burg 2013 (Owens!) and the RWC final 2015 (Owens!!)


  • Foster, Robertson etc
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @booboo said in Foster:

    Excellent. Another 150 pages of this thread.

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  • Springboks v All Blacks 2
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @pakman Yup, may already have been posted but yes Wayne Smith ...

    The whiteboard session that proved Ma'a Nonu as an All Blacks great (https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-whiteboard-session-that-proved-maa-nonu-as-an-all-blacks-great/)

    Rewatching the game now πŸ™‚ ... may post later


  • Springboks v All Blacks I
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @pakman Yeah and good luck to Squidge. I'll have to see if I can find links to his earlier videos. He literally got a cease and desist and they were taken off Youtube mainly imho as they were a bit too "edgy" i.e. funny as f*ck

    As an analyst his enthusiasm is greater than his experience so sometimes he "sees" things that don't exist or are happening randomly ... not a pro but better than most of the dross on TV or in the papers

    What happened to those two guys who did 1014 rugby - Steven and Gareth? They were great fans, good analysts, then sold out to someone. Then I never heard any more ...


  • Foster, Robertson etc
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    @Nepia Yeah ... it is the way of the kiwi public when the AB's aren't #1 or #2 πŸ˜‰
    The talent stream from 2003-4 that peaked in 2013-16 was once in a generation though

    I really respect Wayne Smith for stepping down. He gave it a go then he admitted he was not a NOT a natural head coach at that level ... shows reals self-awareness and humilty which Foster appears to lack

    From afar Robertson may not see turning down a poisoned chalice as sacrilege unless he can get it on his terms i.e. he's negotiating - and part of that negotiation goes public. NZR are in a pickle, they have no one else to blame but themselves?

    I think a deal WILL be reached btw


  • Springboks v All Blacks I
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    If you can't take Squidge Rugby with a pinch of salt, I mean ... maybe lighten up a bit

    Squidge is just a real rugby fan who never started it for the $$$, his early videos were hilarious and so edgy he got banned from using content, so he had to wind things back a lot

    If you WANT proper tactical professional analysis read someone Nick Bishop on The Roar and especially pay a tiny amount for RugbyPass plus - I do. Seriously insightful guy https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/contributor/nick-bishop/


  • Foster, Robertson etc
  • BlueWall_noRedsB BlueWall_noReds

    UK-based lurker ... if Scott Robertson will only take the job on his terms, why blame him?

    His job market has been global since the late 90s. Afaik Scotland, England, likely Wales and maybe Australia will be in the market for a head coach after the next RWC. Four jobs and very unlikely he's not in contact with a few, probably all of them right now?

    If NZR don't see it that way, they can create a 'Robertson law' like they had in 1998-00 πŸ˜‰
    NZRFU to discard 'Henry Law'

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