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All Blacks 2025

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    On Shaun Stevenson, was he a bit hard done by looking back? Like yeah, his defensive issues are well documented, but was he worth giving a proper crack? I feel like he maybe deserved a shot at fullback at some point.

    Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

    Not being from Canterbury is his biggest weakness of all

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Imagine he'd had half the chances Reece/Jordan etc have been given. We'd actually know and supposed top coaches would be able to work with him on his supposed weaknesses!

    Not being from Canterbury is his biggest weakness of all

    Actually I think it could be concentration and mental strength.
    When he is on fire he is definitely on fire.

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      Learnings:

      • Learn NH ref interpretations.
      • Play people in their correct position.
      • Experience only counts if they are fast enough to get near the ball.
      • Change the bench when needed, not when practised
      • Restarts. Are meant to be Restarts. Nail them.
      • Learn to leverage your advantages (scrum, lineout, speed in certain positions).
      • Don't choose players who recently stepped out of a hospital ward.
      • Don't undermine your current players by continually pleading for shiny grass is always greener players overseas.
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        Learnings:

        • Learn NH ref interpretations.
        • Play people in their correct position.
        • Experience only counts if they are fast enough to get near the ball.
        • Change the bench when needed, not when practised
        • Restarts. Are meant to be Restarts. Nail them.
        • Learn to leverage your advantages (scrum, lineout, speed in certain positions).
        • Don't choose players who recently stepped out of a hospital ward.
        • Don't undermine your current players by continually pleading for shiny grass is always greener players overseas.
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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

        Don't undermine your current players by continually pleading for shiny grass is always greener players overseas.

        Amen to that. I think this ongoing theme is selfish and hugely damaging to NZ Rugby. Don't know why NZR doesn't rebuke him. How many more will follow Harry Plummer and just how poor will super rugby become.

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          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

          Don't undermine your current players by continually pleading for shiny grass is always greener players overseas.

          Amen to that. I think this ongoing theme is selfish and hugely damaging to NZ Rugby. Don't know why NZR doesn't rebuke him. How many more will follow Harry Plummer and just how poor will super rugby become.

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          @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

          How many more will follow Harry Plummer

          Now: Ricky R, Akira (pre) and Sotutu.

          Soon: Rieko, DMac?

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            @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

            How many more will follow Harry Plummer

            Now: Ricky R, Akira (pre) and Sotutu.

            Soon: Rieko, DMac?

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            @nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.

              Fair. Of course, Akira signed to end of 26. If they don't love it, they leave...

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Toddy said in All Blacks 2025:

                The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

                Troy Flavell did have a terrific season I must say

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                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Toddy said in All Blacks 2025:

                The best player in NZ couldn't even make the All Blacks in 2007.

                Troy Flavell did have a terrific season I must say

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                    https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/05/french-say-non-to-a-test-against-all-blacks-in-usa-report/

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                      Yay, some good news at last!

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                        I think we should be trying to get Joe Schmidt back.

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                          I think we should be trying to get Joe Schmidt back.

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                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          I think we should be trying to get Joe Schmidt back.

                          I'd settle for Brown or O'Halloran

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                            Brown would be a great pickup, how long is his contract with the Boks? O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues. Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

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                              Brown would be a great pickup, how long is his contract with the Boks? O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues. Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

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                              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Brown would be a great pickup, how long is his contract with the Boks? O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues. Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

                              Only under duress

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                                That's what we need going into 2027 a new assistant with intel on our opposition, preferably from a top tier side.

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                                  Not a chance Tony Brown comes back to work with Razor. The only way he was ever coaching the ABs was with Jamie Joseph, and the ABs elected to go in a different direction.

                                  Razor I said was the right appointment, but hindsight may end up telling us, that a Joseph-Brown ticket was possibly stronger, and at the very least Razor would have benefitted from time away before taking the ABs job.

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                                    Not a chance Tony Brown comes back to work with Razor. The only way he was ever coaching the ABs was with Jamie Joseph, and the ABs elected to go in a different direction.

                                    Razor I said was the right appointment, but hindsight may end up telling us, that a Joseph-Brown ticket was possibly stronger, and at the very least Razor would have benefitted from time away before taking the ABs job.

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Not a chance Tony Brown comes back to work with Razor. The only way he was ever coaching the ABs was with Jamie Joseph, and the ABs elected to go in a different direction.

                                    Razor I said was the right appointment, but hindsight may end up telling us, that a Joseph-Brown ticket was possibly stronger, and at the very least Razor would have benefitted from time away before taking the ABs job.

                                    The only way that question is answered is if Joseph and Brown end up coaching the ABs

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                                      https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/05/french-say-non-to-a-test-against-all-blacks-in-usa-report/

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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/05/french-say-non-to-a-test-against-all-blacks-in-usa-report/

                                      NZR leadership looking like idiots. Not only have they alienated their core supporters, but they have made the French Rugby authorities look more sensible and in touch with reality than themselves. I'd call the NZR leadership clowns, but clowns are sometimes funny.

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                                        @nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.

                                        The French love a crash ball merchant.

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/05/french-say-non-to-a-test-against-all-blacks-in-usa-report/

                                          NZR leadership looking like idiots. Not only have they alienated their core supporters, but they have made the French Rugby authorities look more sensible and in touch with reality than themselves. I'd call the NZR leadership clowns, but clowns are sometimes funny.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/12/05/french-say-non-to-a-test-against-all-blacks-in-usa-report/

                                          NZR leadership looking like idiots. Not only have they alienated their core supporters, but they have made the French Rugby authorities look more sensible and in touch with reality than themselves. I'd call the NZR leadership clowns, but clowns are sometimes funny.

                                          The French are hardly good faith actors, owing ARU about $2 million, sending a weakened squad our way.

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