All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):
Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, LoveWould be surprised if they pick 12 locks and loose forwards.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.
Not compatible with the way we want to play
The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.
This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.
Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.
If the pick 4 locks, I dont think Darry replaces any of the 4 locks from the french squad, maybe he hets in if they select vaai as a 6 primarily
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean They may go with only one of Lakai or Blackadder, but lots of sauces suggest they are part of the coaches' plans.
You don't seem to accounting for Papalii at all who has just been with the squad and put in a compelling case at the end of test 3.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.
Not compatible with the way we want to play
The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.
This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks
It's bloody frustrating. We need a guy who is a little bit of Grant Fox to go with the X-factor
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@KiwiMurph I'd love to see Dalton Papali'i in there. IMHO he is at least our second best 7 and perhaps even our best, but let me put it this way, I don't think that opinion is shared by the All Blacks coaches.
All the rumours from TMM suggest we can expect Blackadder in there.
Higher up the thread is the squad I'd pick.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.
Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.
If the pick 4 locks, I dont think Darry replaces any of the 4 locks from the french squad, maybe he hets in if they select vaai as a 6 primarily
It seems to be something they are intrigued with
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@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me
Don't get me wrong mate, he was pretty handy, just I don't really think he is a real high level 9. That is the case with a bloody lot of good players we got in the country, and absolutely no insult to them. I think perhaps Viljoen could evelop a snappier pass, and pick his times to break or angle he runs, he tends to get isolated at times. Once again that's not real bad, and these things could come to round him off as a top level 9.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.
Not compatible with the way we want to play
The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.
This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks
I agree with your comment about Roigard but problem is he's often been injured so far in his career so we can't rely on him to save us from our current first choice 10s.
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@sparky why is CLW needed if Lakai and Savea cover 8 for Sititi?
Blackadder was average af for Ta$man yesterday but he'll probably only need to prove fitness which he did. Thought Lasaqa was the better of the two 7s in that particular game.
It's going to be a very tough RC so I don't think that leaves a lot of room to be nursing too many players coming back from injury/medical back to fitness.
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Anyone know what time the squad is named? And is it live?
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Think its 12pm
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All Blacks Rugby Championship squad
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Brodie McAlister
Props: Ethan de Groot, Tamaiti Williams, Ollie Norris, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell, Pasilio Tosi
Locks: Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i, Fabian Holland
Loose Forwards: Samipeni Finau, Simon Parker, Ardie Savea, Du’Plessis Kirifi, Wallace Sititi, Peter Lakai, Luke Jacobson
Halfbacks: Cortez Ratima, Cameron Roigard, Noah Hotham
First-five eighths: Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Jordie Barrett, Quinn Tupaea, Billy Proctor, Timoci Tavatavanawai
Outside Backs: Rieko Ioane, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Emoni Narawa, Will Jordan, Ruben LoveInjury Cover: George Bower, Tevita Mafileo, Josh Lord, Finlay Christie, Kyle Preston, Leroy Carter
Unavailable due to injury: Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Asafo Aumua, Stephen Perofeta. -
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Very inexperienced loose forward selection.
My hot take is Papalii is a better rugby player than every loose forward named apart from Savea. The rest are relatively unproven and far more inexperinced at test level.
He was superb coming off the bench against France and is a superb player.
