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All Blacks 2025

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    #4690

    How the fuck did combover win so many SR titles?

    Four of the loose forwards are effectively carbon copies of each other.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @Grooter BOP have now lost their starting and reserve TH prop.

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      @Bovidae "The two most important positions on the field."

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        I dislike Christie as much as anyone but I can see why they picked him. Need an experienced 9 to go with Ratima across to Argie. He's played under these coaches. He's played 23 tests. Happy with Preston given a chance too.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

          Finlay Christie is like a cockroach, can't be killed.

          This is damning with faint praise, but his defence has been very good for some time. He's more of a safe pair of experience to close out a game.

          I guess.

          The selections are a bit wild. I do not understand not dropping people who are injured, to just name injury cover. I guess it is to preserve $$$ for incumbents, but just seems a bit 'in group'

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          This is damning with faint praise, but his defence has been very good for some time. He's more of a safe pair of experience to close out a game.

          It has to be, he does nothing for our attack.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            How the fuck did combover win so many SR titles?

            Four of the loose forwards are effectively carbon copies of each other.

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            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            How the fuck did combover win so many SR titles?

            Four of the loose forwards are effectively carbon copies of each other.

            Richie McCaw. Dan Carter.

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              #4695

              It could be worse, I guess.

              I'm relieved that Ethan Blackadder and David Havili aren't there.

              Luke Jacobson is the new coaches' favourite and lives a charmed life for someone who is made of glass and hardly world class. God knows, what Dalton Papalii has done to piss them off?

              Those injury cover selections are a bit baffling, aren't they? Tevito Mafileo would be no where that high on my prop depth chart and why isn't he named as a new cap?

              Finley Christie's continued selection is troubling. Kyle Preston offers something different, I guess but Folau Fakatava and Xavier Roe are better players. Weird that Josh Lord (who is injured) gets picked ahead of Sam Darry who isn't.

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                It could be worse, I guess.

                I'm relieved that Ethan Blackadder and David Havili aren't there.

                Luke Jacobson is the new coaches' favourite and lives a charmed life for someone who is made of glass and hardly world class. God knows, what Dalton Papalii has done to piss them off?

                Those injury cover selections are a bit baffling, aren't they? Tevito Mafileo would be no where that high on my prop depth chart and why isn't he named as a new cap?

                Finley Christie's continued selection is troubling. Kyle Preston offers something different, I guess but Folau Fakatava and Xavier Roe are better players. Weird that Josh Lord (who is injured) gets picked ahead of Sam Darry who isn't.

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                It could be worse, I guess.

                I'm relieved that Todd Blackadder and David Havili aren't there.

                Luke Jacobson is the new coaches' favourite and lives a charmed life for someone who is made of glass and hardly world class. God knows, what Dalton Papalii has done to piss them off?

                Those injury cover selections are a bit baffling, aren't they? Tevito Mafileo would be no where that high on my prop depth chart and why isn't he named as a new cap.

                Finley Christie's continued selection is troubling. Kyle Preston offers something different, I guess but Folau Fakatava and Xavier Roe are better players. Weird that Josh Lord (who is injured) gets picked ahead of Sam Darry who isn't.

                Todd Blackadder's selection would have been a serious shock

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                  Whoever is selecting the loose forwards needs a slap in the head🤦‍♂️

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Dalts dropped? Wild

                    Look who he plays for......

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                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Dalts dropped? Wild

                    Look who he plays for......

                    Same team as Christie?

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Dalts dropped? Wild

                      Look who he plays for......

                      Same team as Christie?

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                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Dalts dropped? Wild

                      Look who he plays for......

                      Same team as Christie?

                      Don't spoil the narrative!!!

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                        Luke Jacobson is injured again so Josh Lord (who is walking wounded at best and a Lock) gets named as his injury cover ahead of Dalton Papalii.

                        Talk me though how that makes any sense.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          It could be worse, I guess.

                          I'm relieved that Todd Blackadder and David Havili aren't there.

                          Luke Jacobson is the new coaches' favourite and lives a charmed life for someone who is made of glass and hardly world class. God knows, what Dalton Papalii has done to piss them off?

                          Those injury cover selections are a bit baffling, aren't they? Tevito Mafileo would be no where that high on my prop depth chart and why isn't he named as a new cap.

                          Finley Christie's continued selection is troubling. Kyle Preston offers something different, I guess but Folau Fakatava and Xavier Roe are better players. Weird that Josh Lord (who is injured) gets picked ahead of Sam Darry who isn't.

                          Todd Blackadder's selection would have been a serious shock

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan To be fair, so would have Ethan's......

                            Less so. But no less upsetting. You are right about DH too

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                              Luke Jacobson is injured again so Josh Lord (who is walking wounded at best and a Lock) gets named as his injury cover ahead of Dalton Papalii.

                              Talk me though how that makes any sense.

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                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Luke Jacobson is injured again so Josh Lord (who is walking wounded at best and a Lock) gets named as his injury cover ahead of Dalton Papalii.

                              Talk me though how that makes any sense.

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                                Fakatava hard done by. Would have liked to see his commitment to playing in NZ be rewarded.

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                                  Knives and pitch forks will be out if we lose one.......

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Dalts dropped? Wild

                                    Look who he plays for......

                                    Same team as Christie?

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                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Dalts dropped? Wild

                                    Look who he plays for......

                                    Same team as Christie?

                                    There's really no alternative to Christie. Faktava has played 2 tests.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      Knives and pitch forks will be out if we lose one.......

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Knives and pitch forks will be out if we lose one.......

                                      We could realistically lose 3 no matter the squad named.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        Congratulations to Simon Parker, Kyle Preston and Leroy Carter.

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                                        @sparky https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/late-blooming-roofer-bolts-into-all-blacks-squad/ar-AA1JQaN3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=689008cd5f7441d98ff924cc0cfcf626&ei=11

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                                          What I struggle with, is a couple of years ago we had a loose trio that spent an entire season bitch slapping every other trio around in Super Rugby, in a style akin to test footy. They also did exactly that in the finals, the matches that are most akin to test footy at that level.

                                          Since then, our biggest problem with the ABs has been our loosies, and these guys have been barely sighted. Akira gave up and went to Japan. Hoskins to his credit has stuck around but has been forced to watch players like Lio-Willie be brought in ahead of him, and Dalton has been kept at arms length and now dropped despite his strong form in SR and recently against France.

                                          My point here isn't that we need to draft Akira, Dalton and Hoskins into the starting side right now (though that wouldn't hurt). My point is that the loose forward selections and tactics from these coaches have been an absolute mess from the get-go. Ignoring form, selecting undersized trios, favouring ineffective workhorses over players that can have an impact, none of it makes any sense and I think it's going to be the undoing of this AB side.

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