European Club Rugby
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@Billy-Webb said in European Club Rugby:
@MiketheSnow
I do hope it turns out well.
Having a "new brand" (at least relatively new to rugby) entering the fray and doing well could do wonders for the game.First thing they need to do is update the website
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Tom Christie has confirmed that he's joining Newcastle Red Bulls: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360789306/red-bull-moves-rugby-taking-full-ownership-english-club-newcastle
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WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o
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@Bones said in European Club Rugby:
WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o
From the sublime to the cor blimey
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@MiketheSnow With the new investment from House of Luxury LLC what is the possibility that Scarlets break away and join the English Premiership should the WRU cut the number of processional team to just the two and Llanelli not being the base for one of them?
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Slim
If there was a merging they’d want it to be Cardiff
Nobody, including the Welsh, wants or needs to go to Llanelli
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@MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.
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@sparky said in European Club Rugby:
@MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.
Except Newport (Dragons) are the worst region with the lowest attendances
When the WRU say they’re proposing losing two teams that’s not strictly the case
We’re losing two men’s teams and replacing them with two women’s teams
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My twopeneth worth
The WRU are hoping that the consultation will deliver their preferred solution, namely two men's teams and 2 women's teams
The WRU are prepared to sacrifice two men's teams to pay for two women's teams
Theoretically the national campus idea is an excellent one
Will that mean we have one national style and game plan which is then replicated by the two remaining teams? Reddin says absolutely not.
If that's the case, will the players and national coach have more formal time with each other than they do at present to practice and perfect the national coach's vision?
Even though Reddin mentioned NZ as a model to emulate I believe they've been looking at Scotland and want to copy that model.
They've got Tandy as coach.
They're proposing two teams.
But in the 29 years there has been two Scottish regional teams, Glasgow has won the Pro12 once and the URC once. Edinburgh were runners up in the league once, and losing finalists in the European Challenge Cup in 2015.
The Scotland national team has won one 5N / 6N championship in that time - to Wales' six - and not advanced beyond the QF stage at the RWC - Wales has contested two SF.
Is this really the best model for us to aspire to?
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@MiketheSnow I might have completely missed the point (shock horror). But men's and women's rugby thrive on completely different values and motivations.
As Wayne said; men have to play good to feel good.... women have to feel good to play good.
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An excellent listen
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@MiketheSnow Cheers Mike, interesting but depressing to listen to.
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Another interesting take from a consistently sensible YouTuber who's passionate about Welsh rugby
2+1 model allying with the English game.
2 teams into the Premiership, 1 in the Championship as a development team
Would mean saying bye bye to URC, which could be tough legally
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@MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.
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@sparky said in European Club Rugby:
@MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.
And presumably if that did come to pass, Welsh qualified players playing in the English league for an English club would be eligible to play for Wales regardless of how many caps they have