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European Club Rugby

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    Tom Christie has confirmed that he's joining Newcastle Red Bulls: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360789306/red-bull-moves-rugby-taking-full-ownership-english-club-newcastle

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      Louis Rees-Zammit has signed with Bristol Bears.

      https://www.bristolbearsrugby.com/news/bears-sign-world-class-talent-louis-rees-zammit/

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        WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

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          WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

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          @Bones said in European Club Rugby:

          WRU to propose halving Welsh professional teams to two

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c2enjxpmgm8o

          From the sublime to the cor blimey

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            @MiketheSnow With the new investment from House of Luxury LLC what is the possibility that Scarlets break away and join the English Premiership should the WRU cut the number of processional team to just the two and Llanelli not being the base for one of them?

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              Slim

              If there was a merging they’d want it to be Cardiff

              Nobody, including the Welsh, wants or needs to go to Llanelli

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                Slim

                If there was a merging they’d want it to be Cardiff

                Nobody, including the Welsh, wants or needs to go to Llanelli

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                @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

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                  @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

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                  @sparky said in European Club Rugby:

                  @MiketheSnow I would have thought three professional teams makes sense: one in Swansea, one in Cardiff, one in Newport.

                  Except Newport (Dragons) are the worst region with the lowest attendances

                  When the WRU say they’re proposing losing two teams that’s not strictly the case

                  We’re losing two men’s teams and replacing them with two women’s teams

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                    The Ospreys and the Scarlets have already started legal action against the Welsh Rugby Union. What an absolutely farcical situation.

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                      My twopeneth worth

                      The WRU are hoping that the consultation will deliver their preferred solution, namely two men's teams and 2 women's teams

                      The WRU are prepared to sacrifice two men's teams to pay for two women's teams

                      Theoretically the national campus idea is an excellent one

                      Will that mean we have one national style and game plan which is then replicated by the two remaining teams? Reddin says absolutely not.

                      If that's the case, will the players and national coach have more formal time with each other than they do at present to practice and perfect the national coach's vision?

                      Even though Reddin mentioned NZ as a model to emulate I believe they've been looking at Scotland and want to copy that model.

                      They've got Tandy as coach.

                      They're proposing two teams.

                      But in the 29 years there has been two Scottish regional teams, Glasgow has won the Pro12 once and the URC once. Edinburgh were runners up in the league once, and losing finalists in the European Challenge Cup in 2015.

                      The Scotland national team has won one 5N / 6N championship in that time - to Wales' six - and not advanced beyond the QF stage at the RWC - Wales has contested two SF.

                      Is this really the best model for us to aspire to?

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        My twopeneth worth

                        The WRU are hoping that the consultation will deliver their preferred solution, namely two men's teams and 2 women's teams

                        The WRU are prepared to sacrifice two men's teams to pay for two women's teams

                        Theoretically the national campus idea is an excellent one

                        Will that mean we have one national style and game plan which is then replicated by the two remaining teams? Reddin says absolutely not.

                        If that's the case, will the players and national coach have more formal time with each other than they do at present to practice and perfect the national coach's vision?

                        Even though Reddin mentioned NZ as a model to emulate I believe they've been looking at Scotland and want to copy that model.

                        They've got Tandy as coach.

                        They're proposing two teams.

                        But in the 29 years there has been two Scottish regional teams, Glasgow has won the Pro12 once and the URC once. Edinburgh were runners up in the league once, and losing finalists in the European Challenge Cup in 2015.

                        The Scotland national team has won one 5N / 6N championship in that time - to Wales' six - and not advanced beyond the QF stage at the RWC - Wales has contested two SF.

                        Is this really the best model for us to aspire to?

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                        @MiketheSnow I might have completely missed the point (shock horror). But men's and women's rugby thrive on completely different values and motivations.

                        As Wayne said; men have to play good to feel good.... women have to feel good to play good.

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                          Racing in France want Ardie Savea.

                          https://twitter.com/tightfive_rugby/status/1959161990410055715?s=46

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                            An excellent listen

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              An excellent listen

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                              @MiketheSnow Cheers Mike, interesting but depressing to listen to.

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                                Another interesting take from a consistently sensible YouTuber who's passionate about Welsh rugby

                                2+1 model allying with the English game.

                                2 teams into the Premiership, 1 in the Championship as a development team

                                Would mean saying bye bye to URC, which could be tough legally

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  Another interesting take from a consistently sensible YouTuber who's passionate about Welsh rugby

                                  2+1 model allying with the English game.

                                  2 teams into the Premiership, 1 in the Championship as a development team

                                  Would mean saying bye bye to URC, which could be tough legally

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                                  @MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.

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                                    @MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.

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                                    @sparky said in European Club Rugby:

                                    @MiketheSnow Welsh club teams in the English league system would mirror what seems to be successful and popular in soccer. Long-term that's the best financial bet, but as you suggest it might be legally tough to get there.

                                    And presumably if that did come to pass, Welsh qualified players playing in the English league for an English club would be eligible to play for Wales regardless of how many caps they have

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                                      They may be elligible but i suspect there would be issues with releasing players outside of the official test windows as I don't imagine the WRU would have the money to pay off the clubs like the English Union have done.

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                                        It looks like Lee Blackett, Bath's back coach and formerly at the Scarlets and Wasps, is going to join the England set-up as backs coach.

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                                          If Blackett can work with Borthwick, and is allowed to coach his own way, this is a great appointment, Bath have played some lovely rugby in the last couple of years.

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