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    So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

      That is a while away yet. I think they will be hoping a Jacomb or a Simpson comes through the system.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

        So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

        We don't even seem to have a proper plan for 2025-26......

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          Lots of people claim to be able to read Razor's mind.... and most likely before he even needs to think about it himself. Remarkable!

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            Lots of people claim to be able to read Razor's mind.... and most likely before he even needs to think about it himself. Remarkable!

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            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2025:

            Remarkable

            Only because you remarked.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

              So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

              We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

              The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

              Needs tend to right themselves.

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                Reihana, it’s your time fella (in 2027)

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  I agree @Dan54 no way Love could be considered at 10 for the ABs, he doesn't have nearly enough time there at the professional level. Right now he's a 15, but behind DMac and Jordan who are both clearly superior players.

                  If Love is serious about playing 10 then he needs to push his case with the Canes and play a full season there, not be shunted around to accommodate other players. He chose to play 15 a couple of years back when given the choice so I am not convinced he actually wants to be a 10 first.

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                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                  I agree @Dan54 no way Love could be considered at 10 for the ABs, he doesn't have nearly enough time there at the professional level. Right now he's a 15, but behind DMac and Jordan who are both clearly superior players.

                  If Love is serious about playing 10 then he needs to push his case with the Canes and play a full season there, not be shunted around to accommodate other players. He chose to play 15 a couple of years back when given the choice so I am not convinced he actually wants to be a 10 first.

                  I agree, but would be reasonably comfortable with him as the bench 10/15 right now, particularly if Jordie is at 12 and Roigard at 9, I think that works.
                  He comes on to play 15 most games, and if we're comfortable give him a go at 10. If we have a 10 injury, then we have a 9 and 12 (both hurricanes) who can kick and are experienced enough to take pressure off, and a pack who could just stick it up the jumper if needed.

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                  • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                    So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                    We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                    The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                    Needs tend to right themselves.

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                    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                    So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                    We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                    The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                    Needs tend to right themselves.

                    We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

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                      @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                      We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                      The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                      Needs tend to right themselves.

                      We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                      We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                      The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                      Needs tend to right themselves.

                      We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                      Lord
                      Darry
                      Holland
                      Beehre

                      For a start.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                        So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                        We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                        The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                        Needs tend to right themselves.

                        We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                        Lord
                        Darry
                        Holland
                        Beehre

                        For a start.

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                        So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                        We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                        The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                        Needs tend to right themselves.

                        We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                        Lord
                        Darry
                        Holland
                        Beehre

                        For a start.

                        I'm guessing they're considered LH?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                          So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                          We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                          The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                          Needs tend to right themselves.

                          We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                          Lord
                          Darry
                          Holland
                          Beehre

                          For a start.

                          I'm guessing they're considered LH?

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                          So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                          We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                          The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                          Needs tend to right themselves.

                          We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                          Lord
                          Darry
                          Holland
                          Beehre

                          For a start.

                          I'm guessing they're considered LH?

                          They're a lock. Just bind up and fucken push.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                            So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                            We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                            The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                            Needs tend to right themselves.

                            We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                            Lord
                            Darry
                            Holland
                            Beehre

                            For a start.

                            I'm guessing they're considered LH?

                            They're a lock. Just bind up and fucken push.

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                            Bones
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                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                            So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                            We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                            The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                            Needs tend to right themselves.

                            We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                            Lord
                            Darry
                            Holland
                            Beehre

                            For a start.

                            I'm guessing they're considered LH?

                            They're a lock. Just bind up and fucken push.

                            Wing and lock solved in one fel...fow.... statement.

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                              So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                              We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                              The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                              Needs tend to right themselves.

                              We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                              Lord
                              Darry
                              Holland
                              Beehre

                              For a start.

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                              @booboo First three are all LH. Hence my point.

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                                We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                                The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                                Needs tend to right themselves.

                                We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                                Lord
                                Darry
                                Holland
                                Beehre

                                For a start.

                                I'm guessing they're considered LH?

                                They're a lock. Just bind up and fucken push.

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                                @booboo TH locks typically take the most weight coming through via TH prop. Need a strong right shoulder.

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                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

                                  We have had similar concerns about other positions, especially lock and halfback. Both have righted themselves. With 10 we will be coming to the end of an era with Barrett and the departure of Mo'unga. McKenzie in theory should still be around. Jacomb will be 27 and probably making a decision about if he sees a future in NZ. Then there will be Simpson and Muliaina. Mika will have played three seasons and NPC level and two at Super.

                                  The Chiefs will be pissed if they grudgingly agree to let Jacomb go and down the line him and Muliaina are both ABs out of the Landers.

                                  Needs tend to right themselves.

                                  We are still short a young 2m TH lock. Patty T can’t go in forever and we need a backup to Tupou V.

                                  Lord
                                  Darry
                                  Holland
                                  Beehre

                                  For a start.

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                                  @booboo Beehre has clear potential.

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                                  • J jimmyb

                                    Well if you look at the current make up of the 23 (assuming no injuries):

                                    1. De Groot (Foster RWC 23 starter)
                                    2. Taylor (Hansen RWC 23 Starter)
                                    3. Newell (Foster)
                                    4. Scott Barrett (Hansen RWC 23 starter)
                                    5. Va’ai (Foster)
                                    6. Parker ( Robertson)
                                    7. Savea (Hansen RWC 23 starter)
                                    8. Sititi (Robertson)
                                    9. Roigard ( Foster Debut 23)
                                    10. Barrett (Hansen RWC 23 starter)
                                    11. Ioane ( Hansen RWC 23 starter)
                                    12. J Barrett (Hansen RWC 23 Starter)
                                    13. Proctor (Robertson)
                                    14. Narawa (Foster - debut 23 one cap)
                                    15. Jordan (Foster)
                                    16. Taukei’aho (Foster)
                                    17. Williams (Foster RWC 23 bench)
                                    18. Lomax (Foster RWC 23 starter)
                                    19. Holland (Robertson)
                                    20. Kirifi/Lakai (Robertson)
                                    21. Ratima (Robertson)
                                    22. Tupaea (Foster)
                                    23. Dmac (Hansen RWC 23 bench)

                                    Hansen Debutants: 7
                                    Foster: 10
                                    Robertson: 6

                                    Out of Fosters 11: Roigard, Va’ai, Newell, Tupea, Narawa had limited opportunities.

                                    So in the current 23, who exactly has Foster had the most time with? And any forwards in particular that are setting the world on fire that weren’t brought in by Jason Ryan? What exactly did Foster develop in his four years?

                                    Obviously apart from the two stooges at 10, a defunct centre pairing, a backrow with no depth at 6 or 8. Beauden at fullback, Christie as your 2nd halfback?

                                    And out of the barely capped Foster debutants, should any of them not be there and Robertson should have selected another player?

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                                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    What exactly did Foster develop in his four years?

                                    A team which lost the RWC by 1 point with 14 players? 🎣

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      So what's the NZR plan for the first five spot in 2028?

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                                        Fabian Holland has the beef to be a tighthead lock and probably will play in that role once Dunshea leaves the Highlanders.

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                                          Fabian Holland has the beef to be a tighthead lock and probably will play in that role once Dunshea leaves the Highlanders.

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                                          @Mr-Fish He does according to Wiki, but compared to Etzebeth, who's the same height, I'd say he's got a few kegs to go...

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