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    reprobate
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    Good thinking Raz, shuffle the outside backs - that's almost always the problem when you get thrashed.

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    @frugby my mail is 13

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    Good thinking Raz, shuffle the outside backs - that's almost always the problem when you get thrashed.

    coach under pressure classic

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    FFS these selections are getting more bizarre if true I give up its a disaster.

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    @Chris At least Ioane can tackle. Proctor's defence has been sub-par.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris At least Ioane can tackle. Proctor's defence has been sub-par.

    Yeah but first he is not good enough for centre but he's a wing then he doesn't get selected.Now he is the best centre again
    A complete mess confusion reigns.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris At least Ioane can tackle. Proctor's defence has been sub-par.

    Yeah but first he is not good enough for centre but he's a wing then he doesn't get selected.Now he is the best centre again
    A complete mess confusion reigns.

    I think that was short-sighted. He clearly isn't a winger anymore. I think we all hoped Proctor would be an improvement, but he has failed to replicate the form he showed in Super Rugby having had a reasonable chance.

    It has been far from smooth sailing inside him, but he hasn't shown an ounce of anything to suggest he is better than Rieko.

    I think ideally you still want a better distributor at 13... would they be brave enough to consider Ennor for the end of year tour?

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    @george33 gosh that’s the last thing I wanted to hear. Didn’t he concede like 6 turnovers or something for Auckland last weekend??

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    I think with Razor it's just as much as lack of diverse coaching experience as being the problem.

    He's coached Canterbury and the Crusaders.

    His coaching network is small - and even some of those he has had a falling out with (Leon MacDonald).

    Therefore you end up with a weak coaching staff.

    Foster had a similar issue in his tenure but was luckily able to pivot to Ryan and Schmidt.

    Based on the evidence I question how much goodwill Razor has in coaching circles.

    I think the big difference is we all know the original coaching group assembled by Foster wasn't the one he wanted, it was the one he could get.

    Apart from Leon walking out the door, is this the group Razor wanted? Because a bunch of them look as out of their depth as Foster's originals.

    Foster was hamstrung by the ineptitude of the board wasn't he? IIRC he wanted Brown and Joseph, but by the time the board actually opened up applications they were gone? Razor has no such excuse. They gave him what he wanted in terms of coaches

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    Good thinking Raz, shuffle the outside backs - that's almost always the problem when you get thrashed.

    And flogged up front....

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris At least Ioane can tackle. Proctor's defence has been sub-par.

    Yeah but first he is not good enough for centre but he's a wing then he doesn't get selected.Now he is the best centre again
    A complete mess confusion reigns.

    I think that was short-sighted. He clearly isn't a winger anymore. I think we all hoped Proctor would be an improvement, but he has failed to replicate the form he showed in Super Rugby having had a reasonable chance.

    It has been far from smooth sailing inside him, but he hasn't shown an ounce of anything to suggest he is better than Rieko.

    I think ideally you still want a better distributor at 13... would they be brave enough to consider Ennor for the end of year tour?

    Maybe they would, Ennor is a good distributer,But it seems to me they are panicking and will stay with the as they see it, tried and true.
    So BB who is a problem will never get moved from First Five.

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    @Chris I will admit, if Reece comes back in on the right wing, I think we'd deserve to lose.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris At least Ioane can tackle. Proctor's defence has been sub-par.

    Yeah but first he is not good enough for centre but he's a wing then he doesn't get selected.Now he is the best centre again
    A complete mess confusion reigns.

    I think that was short-sighted. He clearly isn't a winger anymore. I think we all hoped Proctor would be an improvement, but he has failed to replicate the form he showed in Super Rugby having had a reasonable chance.

    It has been far from smooth sailing inside him, but he hasn't shown an ounce of anything to suggest he is better than Rieko.

    I think ideally you still want a better distributor at 13... would they be brave enough to consider Ennor for the end of year tour?

    Maybe they would, Ennor is a good distributer,But it seems to me they are panicking and will stay with the as they see it, tried and true.
    So BB who is a problem will never get moved from First Five.

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    Until they realise the biggest issue is in the 10 jersey it is just moving deck chairs on a.sinking ship

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    @frugby Caleb left wing .

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    upthelanders
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    @george33 There must be some positive news for the team this week… Leicester???

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    If true , In a horses for courses selection , They might think reiko is the best equipped to keep
    Sua’Ali quiet

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    @upthelanders understand he isn't available even no he's training.
    Had so many people saying the same unless of a major injury in the squad.

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    wrote last edited by upthelanders
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    So the backline is gonna look like
    9. Roigard
    10. Barrett
    11. Clarke
    12. J. Barrett
    13. Ioane
    14. ??
    15. ?? Jordan?

    🥱🥱😴😴

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    @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

    So the backline is gonna look like
    9. Roigard
    10. Barrett
    11. Clarke
    12. J. Barrett
    13. Ioane
    14. ??
    15. ?? Jordan?

    🥱🥱😴😴

    that 9 could be handy.

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