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    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    Zarn Sullivan is the most similar to JB and hes been showing strong form over the last few weeks.

    In his (Zarn's) customary fullback role? Or has he changed positions?

    A couple of years ago fullback was JB's customary role too.

    Sullivan is probably a better crash ball runner, offloader, and exit kicker than JB too.

    Sullivan has always been a freakish talent. Just as talented as JB. It's interesting that JB was brought in as a 20 year old and persevered with until he came right despite some brain explosions and crappy kicks. Sullivan hasn't been afforded the same special treatment as a kind of project player. I guess Sititi is the project player we have at the moment.

    JB is a very good player but for the red carpet that was rolled out to him he's been a bit of a disappointment for me. He should be close to the best player in the world based on his talent and nurturing but he isn't. He hasn't been pushing for world player of the year and he's not even definitively the best 12 in the world.

    Probably difficult to achieve when you have coaches like Foster and Robertson.

    Or maybe De Allende, Esterhuizen, Aki etc are just better players ?

    I'm not sure the narrative around 'such and such a player being world class if it weren't for those darn coaches' is accurate in a lot of cases.

    They're all/were excellent players and are all more powerful to varying degrees but JB has much better play making rugby skills than any of them.

    Its no coincidence that JB and Ioane were functioning best as a midfield when Schmidt was on the scene.

    Some how we ended up getting the coaching also rans of NZ coaching talent for the start of two cycles.

    this 100%

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    Any leaks? @Landers92

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    Zarn Sullivan is the most similar to JB and hes been showing strong form over the last few weeks.

    In his (Zarn's) customary fullback role? Or has he changed positions?

    A couple of years ago fullback was JB's customary role too.

    Sullivan is probably a better crash ball runner, offloader, and exit kicker than JB too.

    Sullivan has always been a freakish talent. Just as talented as JB. It's interesting that JB was brought in as a 20 year old and persevered with until he came right despite some brain explosions and crappy kicks. Sullivan hasn't been afforded the same special treatment as a kind of project player. I guess Sititi is the project player we have at the moment.

    JB is a very good player but for the red carpet that was rolled out to him he's been a bit of a disappointment for me. He should be close to the best player in the world based on his talent and nurturing but he isn't. He hasn't been pushing for world player of the year and he's not even definitively the best 12 in the world.

    Probably difficult to achieve when you have coaches like Foster and Robertson.

    Or maybe De Allende, Esterhuizen, Aki etc are just better players ?

    I'm not sure the narrative around 'such and such a player being world class if it weren't for those darn coaches' is accurate in a lot of cases.

    do you even keep up to date with test rugby? Aki has been in utterly disastrous form recently, almost singlehandedly lost the 3rd test for the Lions.

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    @restofit said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    Zarn Sullivan is the most similar to JB and hes been showing strong form over the last few weeks.

    In his (Zarn's) customary fullback role? Or has he changed positions?

    A couple of years ago fullback was JB's customary role too.

    Sullivan is probably a better crash ball runner, offloader, and exit kicker than JB too.

    Sullivan has always been a freakish talent. Just as talented as JB. It's interesting that JB was brought in as a 20 year old and persevered with until he came right despite some brain explosions and crappy kicks. Sullivan hasn't been afforded the same special treatment as a kind of project player. I guess Sititi is the project player we have at the moment.

    JB is a very good player but for the red carpet that was rolled out to him he's been a bit of a disappointment for me. He should be close to the best player in the world based on his talent and nurturing but he isn't. He hasn't been pushing for world player of the year and he's not even definitively the best 12 in the world.

    Probably difficult to achieve when you have coaches like Foster and Robertson.

    Or maybe De Allende, Esterhuizen, Aki etc are just better players ?

    I'm not sure the narrative around 'such and such a player being world class if it weren't for those darn coaches' is accurate in a lot of cases.

    do you even keep up to date with test rugby? Aki has been in utterly disastrous form recently, almost singlehandedly lost the 3rd test for the Lions.

    Historically a pretty fine player though.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    Could Cam Miller be a bolter for the XV?

    I know some people think I only have a negative view of Millar.

    Having seen a few comments about whether he is a viable option for the ABVX; I have gone and re-watched Otago's tries this year to see what level of involvement he has had.

    Out of Otago's 50 tries, Millar has been involved in the last couple of phases three times and scored three tries himself.

    It is hard to gauge his full influence as the sample doesn't reflect the impact his kicking has on the flow of the game to get his team into attacking positions.

    He is one of the hardest working players in provincial rugby though. The charge down try he scored against Auckland reflects his style. Be accurate and do everything as well as he can. Same with some of his cover work in defence. A few times he has tracked back really well to sniff out an attacking threat. One in particular against Taranaki. Jacomb made a break and Millar got in-between him and the Taranaki players in support.

    We have been seeing the best of him this NPC. A deadeye kicker. Who works incredibly hard. He is a quality NPC 10 and one that is a good back up at Super level. He just lacks the attacking abilities to influence parts of the game.

    For his skillset he has done very well though.

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    Is that because Millar is a facilitator for more attacking threats in any team he plays in but when your only attacking threats are the leftovers no one else wanted that the Highlanders backs have been over the last few seasons and your forward runners gain about as much momentum as the current All Black loose forward trio it is hard to not also below Super Rugby level.

    TBH he should leave the Highlanders and go to the Blues or Hurricanes.

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    Has the mighty Blues team fallen so low we are desperate for Highlander castoffs?*

    *Don't answer this, just transfer them pronto.

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    When are the squads named?

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    It seems 11.30 pm GMT.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    It seems 11.30 pm GMT.

    today?

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    @Jet said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    It seems 11.30 pm GMT.

    today?

    32nd of Nevermber

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    Ollie Norris is definitely out as he has opted to have knee surgery. Bower will retain his place in the squad.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    It seems 11.30 pm GMT.

    It said 1130 am on 13th NZT earlier in thread. Which is 2230 GMT on 12th. NZDT is 13 hours ahead of UTC / GMT.

    Which is still not a Thursday and going to upset some people.

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    @Snowy said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    It seems 11.30 pm GMT.

    It said 1130 am on 13th NZT earlier in thread. Which is 2230 GMT on 12th. NZDT is 13 hours ahead of UTC / GMT.

    Which is still not a Thursday and going to upset some people.

    Should have done it in the sheds at Athletic Park.

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    @Jet Yep: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360850404/all-you-need-know-ahead-all-blacks-squad-naming-their-grand-slam-tour

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    @Snowy 12 hours diff at the mo?

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    Ooh a bolter is going to make it.

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    @ACT-Crusader Who’s ur guess..?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:

    @Snowy 12 hours diff at the mo?

    12 hours on BST. BST ends late Oct. 13 hours on GMT/ UTC which was what you mentioned. BST is only the same as GMT when UK not on DST.

    Let’s go with the team is announced in 1 hour and 5 minutes from now ( which is still not a Thursday).

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    My guess:

    Props: Williams, De Groot, Bower, Newell, Tosi, Mafileo
    Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Bell
    Locks: S Barrett, Holland, Tuipulotu, Darry
    Back Row: Parker, Finau, Kirifi, Savea, Sititi, Lakai, Jacobson
    Half Backs: Roigard, Ratima, Christie
    First Fives: B Barrett, McKenzie
    Midfield: J Barrett, Tupaea, Fainga'anuku, Proctor, ALB
    Wings: Carter, Clarke, Ioane, Reece
    Full Backs: Jordan, Love

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