All Blacks 2025
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All this lamenting over 2 players, when the most obvious issue is our gameplan and tactics, the way we been rolling it wouldn't matter who we picked.
Edit - also ignoring our inability to combat an aerial game.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
All this lamenting over 2 players, when the most obvious issue is our gameplan and tactics, the way we been rolling it wouldn't matter who we picked.
Good job pulling us out of that rabbit hole mate!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
- They were never going to pick him once he signed in Japan.
They picked Cane and Perenara.
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@canefan McLeod is 26, far from an old-timer (if this is what you are referring to). In theory, he could be the ideal back up to Jordie Barrett, so fair to persist with him.
Based off what? The only similarities they have is they are both tall and white
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@Landers92 McLeod is a good carrier, and his short kicing game has definitely improved.
His issue is outside of that he’s pretty much Jordie Barrett off TEMU as you insinuate.
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
His issue is outside of that he’s pretty much Jordie Barrett off TEMU as you insulate.
I never came across that option in the construction industry, but this is such a wonderful sentence!
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@frugby said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@Landers92 McLeod is a good carrier, and his short kicing game has definitely improved.
His issue is outside of that he’s pretty much Jordie Barrett off TEMU as you insulate.
So he's a poor man's JB?
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
- They were never going to pick him once he signed in Japan.
They picked Cane and Perenara.
Yes, but Cane is a 100 cap All Black captain and Perenara has been around for 10 years as an ever-present. In a team that had been badly shorn of experience. And TJ didn't announce he'd signed overseas until after the AB season had started and he'd been picked.
Akira had a chequered AB career and hadn't even made the team for RWC.
Is there not an obvious difference?
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Not when your argument is they were never going to pick players who were going overseas.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
Not when your argument is they were never going to pick players who were going overseas.
That's not my argument.
They were never going to pick Akira once he was going overseas, because what was he going to bring? Leadership? A deep understanding of All Black culture? Lessons on what not to do?
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We had great players when we were totally dominant, but I always considered it was the game plan that was the point of difference.
The other teams eventually changed it up, and we have not responded.
We're just trying to use the same tired old formula.
Hansen ran out of ideas, Foster didn't have anything fresh, and neither has Robertson.We're headin for another WC SF/F car crash, no matter what players we pick.
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@KiwiMurph said in [All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025]
The notion that Razor simply didnt select Akira because he had signed overseas (with the insinuation being that he otherwise would have) and simply was not consulted prior to Akira going overseas is absolutely laughable.
I have no idea whether he would have been selected if he hadn't signed overseas, but I am certain he was virtually no chance once he had.
The ABs must have used close to 10 players in the 6 jersey under Razor, so I don't see why they would have especially precluded Akira. I mean, honestly, why on earth would you? You've only got five Super teams to choose from.
On the other hand, he's not Richie McCaw, so you could never have given him a cast iron guarantee.
In a nutshell, wouldn't you say, "Mate, if you play well you'll be in the frame".
And wouldn't you say that to about 90% of guys with test experience?
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@Grooter said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@jimmyb bloody oath Jimmy not enough otago hard men such as Jona Nareki we all saw what he did to Waikato loose forward Oli Mathis last Friday, Nareki would've humbled that punk Henry Pollock on this tour given the chance
The forwards will get absolutely rolled. With the exception of CLW, most of them look good by standing out in terrible teams. Stat padding in bottom placed teams doesn’t really count for much
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
Not when your argument is they were never going to pick players who were going overseas.
That's not my argument.
They were never going to pick Akira once he was going overseas, because what was he going to bring? Leadership? A deep understanding of All Black culture? Lessons on what not to do?
Robertson selected last year’s squads thinking those players would get him a good win record in his first season and for no reason other than that. He thought Cane and Perenara would do the job and Ioane wouldn’t. That they were going overseas wasn’t a factor.
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@sparky said in All Blacks & All Blacks XV EOYT Squads 2025:
Antonio Shalfoon is really unlucky not to be picked for the All Blacks XV squad. He's had an excellent year.
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