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    replied to ShaquilleOatmeal last edited by
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    @ShaquilleOatmeal so all the Crusaders he worked with over those successive championships were dummies 😉

    From here, it does seem an odd approach, but if it works, who cares...time is running out for Razor, and you'd have to think his coaching future with the ABs surely hinges on a successful tour north?

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    LOL that's insane if my manager did that I'd think he's mad and start job hunting

    The sheep were probably thinking "We walk together..."

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    replied to taniwharugby last edited by Victor Meldrew
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal so all the Crusaders he worked with over those successive championships were dummies 😉

    From here, it does seem an odd approach, but if it works, who cares...time is running out for Razor, and you'd have to think his coaching future with the ABs surely hinges on a successful tour north?

    I think he's nailed on until 2027. NZR have invested too much skin in him. Lose too much face if they get rid of him.

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    @Victor-Meldrew probably, but the damage to the All Black brand in the past 5 or 6 years is a bigger deal, if we lose 50% of the games, there needs to be some serious change, but expect this will just be more assistants moved on, but given Razors, er, innovative style, are you going to be able to attract any quality coaches to work with him?

    As an aside, I am not adverse to a non-Kiwi in the team, provided they have the right credentials.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    The similarities are quite striking in terms of their management speak and also how they like to celebrate victories.

    cd54098d-783e-43b4-b340-976b8db7d51f-image.jpeg

    If Razor is David Brent then which All Blacks are Keith ?

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    The article from the Herald (I think) mentioned that Razor saw himself as the ‘culture’ coach with NFL style sub-coaching appointments for those who do, well, I guess the actual coaching.

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    @gt12 And I think history suggests he is quite a good culture coach - as stupid as it sounds our issues are in attack and defence.

    The forwards are going quite well individually (suggests Ryan is doing his job), but if Robertson is brave he’ll clean house with the rest at the end of the year.

    My worry is though, Wayne Smith as the new attack coach and I just don’t think that is a good idea.

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    I know some would get rid of Razor, but that’s just doesn’t seem likely. Given Jason Ryan won’t (and shouldn’t) go either, I’d be intrigued to know what people with more knowledge than I see as a semi-realistic dream 2026 All Blacks Management group?

    Scott Roberston (Head Coach)
    Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
    NEW (Assistant Coach - Attack)
    NEW (Assistant Coach - Defence)
    NEW (Assistant Coach - Backs)
    NEW (Coach)
    Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 And I think history suggests he is quite a good culture coach - as stupid as it sounds our issues are in attack and defence.

    The forwards are going quite well individually (suggests Ryan is doing his job), but if Robertson is brave he’ll clean house with the rest at the end of the year.

    My worry is though, Wayne Smith as the new attack coach and I just don’t think that is a good idea.

    Do the ABs need a culture-focused coach?
    It seems like that was a strength for the last 12 years.
    Excellent actual coaching though….

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    The AB head coach has to be the top gig for any NZ coach. Therefore it ought to be possible to get a Rennie or similar as assistant (with a view to taking over) at some point.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    The forwards are going quite well individually (suggests Ryan is doing his job)

    i am starting to believe this isn't going as well as we thought. the set piece is going backwards, our ruck work leaves a lot to be desired, and defensively we are soft as butter.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    The article from the Herald (I think) mentioned that Razor saw himself as the ‘culture’ coach with NFL style sub-coaching appointments for those who do, well, I guess the actual coaching.

    If that was his pitch to NZR, then the board should be sacked and investigated for breach of their fiduciary duties.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 And I think history suggests he is quite a good culture coach - as stupid as it sounds our issues are in attack and defence.

    A culture of giving up?

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    replied to mariner4life last edited by taniwharugby
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    @mariner4life Article on PR today, Ardie reckons ABs are in a better place in 2025 than 2024 and heading in right direction...

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    The similarities are quite striking in terms of their management speak and also how they like to celebrate victories.

    cd54098d-783e-43b4-b340-976b8db7d51f-image.jpeg

    Razor won’t be able to go to World Rugby awards after the EOYT.

    He will be walking to John O Groats for some spastics.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 And I think history suggests he is quite a good culture coach - as stupid as it sounds our issues are in attack and defence.

    The forwards are going quite well individually (suggests Ryan is doing his job), but if Robertson is brave he’ll clean house with the rest at the end of the year.

    My worry is though, Wayne Smith as the new attack coach and I just don’t think that is a good idea.

    Oh piss off, we had players GIVING UP and just walking around against SA as they racked up a record score against us at home. If that's the "culture" Razor is bringing then he can fuck right off. Never seen that before from an AB side, don't want to ever see it again.

    The David Brent comparisons are on point here.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 And I think history suggests he is quite a good culture coach - as stupid as it sounds our issues are in attack and defence.

    The forwards are going quite well individually (suggests Ryan is doing his job), but if Robertson is brave he’ll clean house with the rest at the end of the year.

    My worry is though, Wayne Smith as the new attack coach and I just don’t think that is a good idea.

    Do the ABs need a culture-focused coach?
    It seems like that was a strength for the last 12 years.
    Excellent actual coaching though….

    There doesn’t seem to be any edge.

    They are too comfortable.

    They are celebrities whose art is rugby. The result is secondary. The content, fashion, sound bites and transparent lensed glasses and ear rings are en vogue.
    They want to be later day Money Mayweather without putting in the hard yakka to become Pretty Boy Floyd in the first place.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    The article from the Herald (I think) mentioned that Razor saw himself as the ‘culture’ coach with NFL style sub-coaching appointments for those who do, well, I guess the actual coaching.

    If that was his pitch to NZR, then the board should be sacked and investigated for breach of their fiduciary duties.

    Paul implies that in the article, to be fair. It's very clear where his allegiances lie.

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    Suggesting Scott Robertson is some Ted Lasso, David Brent character just ain’t it. The guy has won basically every season of his career until now.

    He has underwhelmed in black no doubt, but he isn’t an idiot.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @mariner4life Article on PR today, Ardie reckons ABs are in a better place in 2025 than 2024 and heading in right direction...

    well, ok. i feel better.

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