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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
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    @nzzp said in Exodus:

    you either see a midget mercenary or a super successful player who should be rolled straight back into 10.

    Both?

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

    @canefan so who would our #5 be right now then...Reihana?

    At least Beaver had played test rugby.

    Thats the problem when no one other than BB gets a sniff

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    @Nepia said in Exodus:

    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    @Wurzel said in Exodus:

    You truly believe that the coaches are holding the All Blacks back to engineer a scenario where a returning player can therefore make them look better for 1/3rd of the World Cup cycle?

    I think Robertson has totally made his mind up that Mounga is the guy, and he is trying to take a conservative treading water approach using the most experienced guy available until then. I don't think he is trying to lose, but I do think he is completely risk averse in that position because he thinks he has a solution coming and he's making a terribly wrong call.
    And I think that's shit. Both for now (because McKenzie is already better), in terms of contingency should Mounga get injured (because BB will be worse still by the WC and we aren't developing other options), and in terms of what happens to the ABs post-WC when Mounga buggers off again.

    Is that what we want from our AB coach? I can't imagine Ted back in the day hanging his hat on waiting for some player to return.

    I don't think anyone expected this from Razor as a coach.

    Clearly the final 25 minutes is more important than the first 65... 🤦🤷

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
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    @Bovidae Blues 20s captain Sika Pole has also headed offshore interestingly enough to Fabian Hollands old stomping grounds Castricumse Rugby club in the Netherlands

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
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    @nzzp said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    "over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.

    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss

    Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.

    Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
    Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
    vs NH: 2/6 (33%)

    Opponent Record
    Argentina 4-2
    South Africa 3-3
    Australia 8-1-1
    Ireland 2-0
    France 0-2
    England 0-1-1

    Fair stats - and Mo'unga was by no means perfect, but the big problem I remembered was that him and BB played together. The dual playmaker strategy used then is not commonly employed anymore for good reason.

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    replied to frugby on last edited by
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    @frugby said in Exodus:

    @nzzp said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    "over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.

    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss

    Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.

    Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
    Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
    vs NH: 2/6 (33%)

    Opponent Record
    Argentina 4-2
    South Africa 3-3
    Australia 8-1-1
    Ireland 2-0
    France 0-2
    England 0-1-1

    Fair stats - and Mo'unga was by no means perfect, but the big problem I remembered was that him and BB played together. The dual playmaker strategy used then is not commonly employed anymore for good reason.

    And yet, the current team looks 10 times better when we have Dmac and Barrett together.

    if you go back to 2018, we used Dmac and Barrett together plenty and they were excellent. The issue is that things started going wrong when we tried to do the same with Mo'unga and Barrett.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 I think strategically teams use dual playmakers now differently to a few years ago. Particularly around the time of the 2019 RWC, the trend was to play with a left and a right, a bit like they did in league, but it just meant nobody controlled the game.

    When Barrett and DMac play together currently, Barrett is generally still the primary playmaker, but DMac will occasionally inject off the same side. It's quite different.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 maybe its due to one of BB or Mounga wanted the be the main 'driver' and were both trying to pull strings (ego or just poor direction) whereas now, maybe its all on one of them when they are both our there?

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    Confirmed that Ross Filipo will be an assistant coach at the Hanazono Kintetsu Liners. Even though they are a Div 2 club, the money is much greater than what he was earning in NZ. Akira Ioane and now Peter Umaga-Jensen are there.

    https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/sport/360880757/why-waikato-maori-all-blacks-coach-ross-filipo-left-chiefs-and-has-now-jetted-japan

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    #3068

    King Maxwell from last years NZ U20 was playing D3 in Japan for the Water Gush. Not sure if he's still there.

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    James O’Reilly heading to France. Not sure who he’s signed with though.

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    @hikastags said in Exodus:

    King Maxwell from last years NZ U20 was playing D3 in Japan for the Water Gush. Not sure if he's still there.

    He was in one of the Ignite7s teams (Surge) that played earlier this month. He has speed so would be a good option for the AB7s.

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    James O’Reilly heading to France. Not sure who he’s signed with though.

    I guess it's Vannes which needs a hooker because two of their hookers have suffered long term injuries.

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    Reported on several French sites and All.Rugby - I guess it is for the 26/27 Top 14 - This from RVA radio site -
    "ASM Clermont continues its transfer activity with the signing of a new key player at center.

    This is very good news that could soon be officially announced by ASM Clermont. The club is reportedly close to signing another very promising player from New Zealand: Alexander Lam. This signing will help the team continue to build its squad, especially as several players are out of contract, such as Lucas Tauzin, Irae Simone, and Pierre Fouyssac.

    27 years old, winger

    Aj Lam has been playing center for the Auckland Blues since 2021. He primarily plays on the wing and is currently a highly sought-after player for clubs. The 27-year-old is therefore well on his way to joining the Top 14.

    According to Midi Olympique, nothing is signed yet, but negotiations are progressing very well. Lam has reportedly agreed to join the Clermont coaching staff. The latter is already working to integrate him into his attack as the second block of the championship has just begun."

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    replied to Daffy Jaffy on last edited by
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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Exodus:

    Reported on several French sites and All.Rugby - I guess it is for the 26/27 Top 14 - This from RVA radio site -
    "ASM Clermont continues its transfer activity with the signing of a new key player at center.

    This is very good news that could soon be officially announced by ASM Clermont. The club is reportedly close to signing another very promising player from New Zealand: Alexander Lam. This signing will help the team continue to build its squad, especially as several players are out of contract, such as Lucas Tauzin, Irae Simone, and Pierre Fouyssac.

    27 years old, winger

    Aj Lam has been playing center for the Auckland Blues since 2021. He primarily plays on the wing and is currently a highly sought-after player for clubs. The 27-year-old is therefore well on his way to joining the Top 14.

    According to Midi Olympique, nothing is signed yet, but negotiations are progressing very well. Lam has reportedly agreed to join the Clermont coaching staff. The latter is already working to integrate him into his attack as the second block of the championship has just begun."

    Another player with promise that never got a shot. Meanwhile questions of our midfield abound

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    wrote on last edited by
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    Its sad he never got a shot, should have been on the Northern tour over ALB.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #3075

    We're becoming a decent supplier for European clubs.

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    replied to African Monkey on last edited by
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    @African-Monkey said in Exodus:

    We're becoming a decent supplier for European clubs.

    Has been that way for some time. The worst part right now is we are letting players go that could actually help us get better, IMHO....

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    wrote last edited by Steven Harris
    #3077

    Northland lock Sam Caird has signed with Yokohama Cannon Eagles in Japan linking up former Blues head coach and ABs assistant Leon McDonald
    Caird will return to Northland for next years Npc

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    wrote last edited by
    #3078

    Not confirmed but...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360903473/newcastle-hijack-saracens-move-england-qualified-hoskins-sotutu

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