All Blacks 2025
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
Inside Rugby: Chairman Kirk's nuclear option for coaching dilemma
OPINION: David Kirk has acknowledged All Blacks appointment process was flawed.
The Herald has spoken to several high-profile Kiwi coaches based overseas, who say that while they love their country and want teams in black to win on the world stage, they have no interest in coming home because they don’t believe the high-performance system is operating at best-practice levels, and they don’t trust NZR to consistently make good decisions around coaching and management appointments.
Some coaches have said they fear NZR has become dismissive of what it could learn and borrow from other countries and that it has shut itself off entirely from the rest of the world, which is partly why they say the All Blacks’ defensive and attacking patterns are outdated and ineffective.
Thats a grim, deflating read.
We are in trouble folks.
Big trouble. We have Scott Hansen coaching the side with Razor doing the pilates side of things and have to tour the republic for 4 fucken tests next year!
One thing that really annoyed me about the 3 part Razor wankfest run by Jim Kayes was when he was extremely dismissive about getting experience overseas and said something along the lines of 'Why do i need overseas experience? I spent time over there as a player!' He lost me right there. Did he think he'd walk into international rugby thinking the opposition was the same level as the Waratahs and Force or something?
I really think we make too much of saying you need international experience.
Sure test rugby is different but its still rugby. The laws are the same, the quality increases but who shouldnt be shocked at test rugby is different than super rugby
Funnily enough Grubs, one Sam Whitelock said he thought the assistant coaches weren't experienced enough at test level rugby in his book. I also remember Ryan saying when the Crusaders had a really tough game coming up and he made comment it will be test match intensity, Whitelock told him he was talking bullshit, no comparison he said. Not sure if Sam had enough experience to know?
I'd trust Sam I Am
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Going into 2025, Robertson was talking about how much he'd learnt from his first year coaching international rugby. He's had another season now and there's no sign he learnt anything at all. He just talks absolute nonsense.
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Going into 2025 there were some optimists that thought after 12 months in the set up to lay the foundations Razor and co would be more daring and innovative in year 2
Then we end up in 2025 scoring 1 counter attacking try all season and an End Of Year Tour where not one single player debuted for the ABs.....
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
The only time we look ok on attack without looking at stats , and I’m not sure what the difference is , is when we have possession inside the 22 . Give us the ball there we are probably as good as anyone.
But further up the field we are terrible, lots of passes for very few line breaks or gaining territory, then resort to a terrible kick
Good point.
Its a team that moves the ball laterally a lot but doesn't play vertically. The opposition are able to keep the ABs on front of them just going east -west.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
Going into 2025 there were some optimists that thought after 12 months in the set up to lay the foundations Razor and co would be more daring and innovative in year 2
Then we end up in 2025 scoring 1 counter attacking try all season and an End Of Year Tour where not one single player debuted for the ABs.....
Literally no discernible progress and Razor is gaslighting the fans.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Literally no discernible progress and Razor is gaslighting the fans.
“Gotta keep the faith.”
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@DurryMexted said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby What, exactly, would Razor be doing to turn it around in your scenario?
Let’s start from the back
Love, Jordan, Clarke
Can Jordan & Clarke defy the 27 club curse and be valid options at Wing for the next 2 years?
As an aside.......People are calling for Nanai Seturo who turns 27 next August.
Difference being, he hasn't been playing international rugby since he was 19. Cory Jane was what, 25?
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@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
He said a lot of things without even once mentioning coaching the team. Is he even a coach?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Imagine listening to him and Hansen for a season.....
Much prefer Rsssie's "that performance was dogshit" messaging.
Clear, concise, and you know you are getting beasted at training and/or dropped next week.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
Inside Rugby: Chairman Kirk's nuclear option for coaching dilemma
OPINION: David Kirk has acknowledged All Blacks appointment process was flawed.
The Herald has spoken to several high-profile Kiwi coaches based overseas, who say that while they love their country and want teams in black to win on the world stage, they have no interest in coming home because they don’t believe the high-performance system is operating at best-practice levels, and they don’t trust NZR to consistently make good decisions around coaching and management appointments.
Some coaches have said they fear NZR has become dismissive of what it could learn and borrow from other countries and that it has shut itself off entirely from the rest of the world, which is partly why they say the All Blacks’ defensive and attacking patterns are outdated and ineffective.
Thats a grim, deflating read.
We are in trouble folks.
Big trouble. We have Scott Hansen coaching the side with Razor doing the pilates side of things and have to tour the republic for 4 fucken tests next year!
One thing that really annoyed me about the 3 part Razor wankfest run by Jim Kayes was when he was extremely dismissive about getting experience overseas and said something along the lines of 'Why do i need overseas experience? I spent time over there as a player!' He lost me right there. Did he think he'd walk into international rugby thinking the opposition was the same level as the Waratahs and Force or something?
I really think we make too much of saying you need international experience.
Sure test rugby is different but its still rugby. The laws are the same, the quality increases but who shouldnt be shocked at test rugby is different than super rugby
Funnily enough Grubs, one Sam Whitelock said he thought the assistant coaches weren't experienced enough at test level rugby in his book. I also remember Ryan saying when the Crusaders had a really tough game coming up and he made comment it will be test match intensity, Whitelock told him he was talking bullshit, no comparison he said. Not sure if Sam had enough experience to know?
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@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
He said a lot of things without even once mentioning coaching the team. Is he even a coach?
No, it appears we've been had. He's the feels guy. Kirk should read that and pull the trigger without hesitation
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Imagine listening to him and Hansen for a season.....
Think of what the squad must have sat thru....
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
They play like boys.
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@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
Watching the opening of Aotearoa Rugby Pod is a joke. Parsons reckons we've been dominant on defence all year until we let it slide vs Wales and England. I guess he didn't watch us vs SA in Wellington, and the stats on The Breakdown.
He's a mouthpiece for the players and is being told what to say by NZ Rugby.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
No edge to the organisation from top down.
We have a no dickheads policy.....we actually need a few dickheads in the building and on the pitch.
