Bokke vs Ireland
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@pakman said in Bokke vs Ireland:
I don't believe JvdF makes a huge difference, as Kolisi isn't huge, but the first half did make me wonder how good Sheehan is at scrum time.
I think people overstate how much a good scrum is just down to props. Hooker is also very key, and Argentinians used to consider more important than LH. TH lock absolutely crucial, and LH becomes very key if down to seven men.
On the importance of the hooker front, it was noticeable in Boks 2 that ABs started to push Boks back when McAlister replaced Taukei'aho. Mind you, at that stage we had three locks in scrum and RG had played 50 minutes, which is long for him!
I agree that the unwashed punditry generally overemphasize individual props when discussing scrum performance. All 8 have a role to play, especially if like Ireland your props are weak as Yank piss.
My point re JvdF & the Irish hookers is that they’re luxuries that can only be accommodated because the Irish front row has not been properly policed. If they start to be then relatively mobile Irish props would start practicing their throwing and JvdF should, at least for matches involving SA, NZ & France, expect to find himself riding the pine to allow a bigger body to man the pumps early doors.
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He’s not wrong even if it does sound like sour grapes
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@MiketheSnow said in Bokke vs Ireland:
He’s not wrong
What is totally absurd is when the ref calls for a scrum after crooked line-out throw.
And the halfback feed to scrum is even more crooked!!!
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@MiketheSnow referees finally handing out cards in the manner Irish fans have been demanding. They must be thrilled.
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That is possibly the best stat i've seen all season.
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@Smuts said in Bokke vs Ireland:
@pakman said in Bokke vs Ireland:
I don't believe JvdF makes a huge difference, as Kolisi isn't huge, but the first half did make me wonder how good Sheehan is at scrum time.
I think people overstate how much a good scrum is just down to props. Hooker is also very key, and Argentinians used to consider more important than LH. TH lock absolutely crucial, and LH becomes very key if down to seven men.
On the importance of the hooker front, it was noticeable in Boks 2 that ABs started to push Boks back when McAlister replaced Taukei'aho. Mind you, at that stage we had three locks in scrum and RG had played 50 minutes, which is long for him!
I agree that the unwashed punditry generally overemphasize individual props when discussing scrum performance. All 8 have a role to play, especially if like Ireland your props are weak as Yank piss.
My point re JvdF & the Irish hookers is that they’re luxuries that can only be accommodated because the Irish front row has not been properly policed. If they start to be then relatively mobile Irish props would start practicing their throwing and JvdF should, at least for matches involving SA, NZ & France, expect to find himself riding the pine to allow a bigger body to man the pumps early doors.
You'll be regretting that post soon!
Irish analysis:
The failure to pick two TH locks in 23 is identified, which hugely amplified the impact of Ryan committing hari kari.
Sheehan fingered as the weaker of the two Irish hookers, and the combination with Porter a weakness.
Boks took full advantage, although first scrum was probably illegal by Marx and Du Toit.
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@pakman I saw this - no surprise that Jackman talks sense about their scrum. He’s an outlier who’s been saying most of the things he said in the video since at least before the last World Cup.
Expect he’ll remain a Cassandra until/unless refs police the Irish scrum even in games where the other pack doesn’t have the sort of dominance that makes their chicanery impossible to ignore.
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