All Blacks 2026
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
@Victor-Meldrew well after the Foster fiasco, youd have hoped NZR would have learnt and had some kpi or performance indicators to trigger a 2 year review witha view to parting ways...or something more.than what it seems we got.
That would be far too sensible - and didn't appointing Coach Jesus obliviate the need?
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .
Unless I’m remembering that wrong .
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@kiwiinmelb I was thinking the same...if someone did come in though, they'd almost have carte blanche to write thier contract you'd think given the current mess and the one that was supposedly over Fozzie too.
Problem with doing what Fozzie did is that who can he even bring in? Sounds like there are real issues across the whole coaching team, our forwards have regressed after Razor took over, despite the improvements under Ryan when he was in Fozzies team.
NZR really have painted themselves into a corner here....Fire Razor and his team, next in line is...? Not to mention they woudl likely be able to dictate terms.
Keep Razor, ditch his team, who wants to work for him when it seems he is part of the problem here?
Fucking mess, can't even flush the dunny and move on, this turd is a floater and aint gonna flush.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:
Been pretty slack posting over the Christmas break but here’s what I’ve been told that I can post.
Beauden Barrett is heavily trusted by Razor and co to the point he is effectively running the trainings. Dmac has a say but by all accounts BB is the guy who has final say.
Yes your 10’s usually run your team runs etc, but from what I’m told BB is doing more than just that. Makes you wonder what the roles of these current coaches actually are.
There was also a high profile All Black that was out after the England game until 5am which broke curfew, he didn’t get dropped or punished which is a bit of a double standard as EDG was kept out of a couple games for the same thing on last years EOYT.
By all accounts, and I’m pointing out the obvious here, it’s pretty toxic in camp.
To hear these sorts of things (coupled with the current team performance), is just so disappointing after the changes made to internal standards and individual accountability from late 2004 onwards.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:
Been pretty slack posting over the Christmas break but here’s what I’ve been told that I can post.
Beauden Barrett is heavily trusted by Razor and co to the point he is effectively running the trainings. Dmac has a say but by all accounts BB is the guy who has final say.
Yes your 10’s usually run your team runs etc, but from what I’m told BB is doing more than just that. Makes you wonder what the roles of these current coaches actually are.
There was also a high profile All Black that was out after the England game until 5am which broke curfew, he didn’t get dropped or punished which is a bit of a double standard as EDG was kept out of a couple games for the same thing on last years EOYT.
By all accounts, and I’m pointing out the obvious here, it’s pretty toxic in camp.
Jesus, what a mess.
BB is the single biggest problem player-wise for the team's performance.
How can you have BB running the team, when he's going to get the chop for Mounga next year, what sort of strategy is that? -
@reprobate Mutiny?
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Yeah interesting on all this BB stuff coming out lately on and off the field.
Soooo what happens when Mo'unga is back if BB has this much say in matters?
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@reprobate exactly what i was thinking. The logic around putting all of his eggs in Barretts basket, seemingly waiting to transfer them all into Moungas basket, with no broader foresight or strategy is just absolutely baffling
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...
Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...
Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...
In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.
Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.
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Correct that Sam Casey is good mates with the Barrett's?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
winner gets head
deal!!
How did I know it would be Mariner that picked up on that.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
winner gets head
deal!!
How did I know it would be Mariner that picked up on that.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .
Unless I’m remembering that wrong .
Pretty sure you are correct, but he was almost actively courting the job, not sure there is anyone in same position now is kind of what I meant.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...
Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...
In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.
Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.
Yep , mind you he was already their director of rugby. Not sure we have similar. Wayne Smith is perhaps close, but I will bet he won't take job on.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?
Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.
Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .
Unless I’m remembering that wrong .
Pretty sure you are correct, but he was almost actively courting the job, not sure there is anyone in same position now is kind of what I meant.
Jamie Joseph is probably the only one we have that might come close to that , I mean he applied last time and put his hand up to coach the b team , so you would assume he still wants the job .
