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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Been pretty slack posting over the Christmas break but here’s what I’ve been told that I can post.

    Beauden Barrett is heavily trusted by Razor and co to the point he is effectively running the trainings. Dmac has a say but by all accounts BB is the guy who has final say.

    Yes your 10’s usually run your team runs etc, but from what I’m told BB is doing more than just that. Makes you wonder what the roles of these current coaches actually are.

    There was also a high profile All Black that was out after the England game until 5am which broke curfew, he didn’t get dropped or punished which is a bit of a double standard as EDG was kept out of a couple games for the same thing on last years EOYT.

    By all accounts, and I’m pointing out the obvious here, it’s pretty toxic in camp.

    To hear these sorts of things (coupled with the current team performance), is just so disappointing after the changes made to internal standards and individual accountability from late 2004 onwards.

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    A caretaker coaching team made up of the 5 SR head coaches this year, winner gets head.

    You heard it here first.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    A caretaker coaching team made up of the 5 SR head coaches this year, winner gets head.

    You heard it here first.

    I thought Robertson was at pains to point out how much care he was taking?

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Been pretty slack posting over the Christmas break but here’s what I’ve been told that I can post.

    Beauden Barrett is heavily trusted by Razor and co to the point he is effectively running the trainings. Dmac has a say but by all accounts BB is the guy who has final say.

    Yes your 10’s usually run your team runs etc, but from what I’m told BB is doing more than just that. Makes you wonder what the roles of these current coaches actually are.

    There was also a high profile All Black that was out after the England game until 5am which broke curfew, he didn’t get dropped or punished which is a bit of a double standard as EDG was kept out of a couple games for the same thing on last years EOYT.

    By all accounts, and I’m pointing out the obvious here, it’s pretty toxic in camp.

    Jesus, what a mess.
    BB is the single biggest problem player-wise for the team's performance.
    How can you have BB running the team, when he's going to get the chop for Mounga next year, what sort of strategy is that?

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    replied to reprobate last edited by
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    @reprobate Mutiny?

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    Yeah interesting on all this BB stuff coming out lately on and off the field.

    Soooo what happens when Mo'unga is back if BB has this much say in matters?

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    @reprobate exactly what i was thinking. The logic around putting all of his eggs in Barretts basket, seemingly waiting to transfer them all into Moungas basket, with no broader foresight or strategy is just absolutely baffling

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...

    Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    winner gets head

    deal!!

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...

    Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...

    In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.

    Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.

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    Correct that Sam Casey is good mates with the Barrett's?

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    winner gets head

    deal!!

    How did I know it would be Mariner that picked up on that.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

    winner gets head

    deal!!

    How did I know it would be Mariner that picked up on that.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .

    Unless I’m remembering that wrong .

    Pretty sure you are correct, but he was almost actively courting the job, not sure there is anyone in same position now is kind of what I meant.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...

    Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...

    In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.

    Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.

    Yep , mind you he was already their director of rugby. Not sure we have similar. Wayne Smith is perhaps close, but I will bet he won't take job on.

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .

    Unless I’m remembering that wrong .

    Pretty sure you are correct, but he was almost actively courting the job, not sure there is anyone in same position now is kind of what I meant.

    Jamie Joseph is probably the only one we have that might come close to that , I mean he applied last time and put his hand up to coach the b team , so you would assume he still wants the job .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Although if I remember correctly, the talk was razor himself was willing to take over from fozzie if he was sacked with a similar timeframe to the last wc .

    Unless I’m remembering that wrong .

    Pretty sure you are correct, but he was almost actively courting the job, not sure there is anyone in same position now is kind of what I meant.

    Jamie Joseph is probably the only one we have that might come close to that , I mean he applied last time and put his hand up to coach the b team , so you would assume he still wants the job .

    Yep ,I thought of him (wuld of liked him to get job at start), but somehow think he would not be keen on coming in with Razor's team, and not sure who he would look at for those roles.

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...

    Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...

    In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.

    Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.

    Yep , mind you he was already their director of rugby. Not sure we have similar. Wayne Smith is perhaps close, but I will bet he won't take job on.

    He took up the DOR role in December 2017, became coach in February 2018.

    He may have been planning since June of that year, but the point stands that people can take over and win.

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    @MacDazzler Sam Casey also confirmed that it's very unlikely that Ardie Savea would play again under current AB coaches.

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    replied to george33 last edited by gt12
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    @george33

    Was that on the radio?
    That would be a huge huge thing and I think we would definitely see change if true, even though we would have a better more balanced loose forward trio if he left.

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