All Blacks 2026
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The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
not meaning at all to make this a razor v Fozzie thing ,thats been done to death,
but i do find it very interesting the players turned on him as opposed to going into bat for Fozzie , love to know more on why .
Um, he treated them with fairness transparency and respect?
It sounds to me like
a the players had problems with Hansen (and strategy)
b Robertson didn't listen to them and/or make changes
c when he said Hansen was basically doing the coaching that just turned everything nuclear for players (and possibly NZR and some support staff?)NB it wasn't just Mealamu and Kirk reviewing, they also had ex high performance guy Don Tricker back..(or at least contributing from overseas I read when he is part of review boards things generally change).
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
Maybe so, but perhaps even they didn't like losing so often and so badly
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Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
BB is nothing more than a bench player at best. Ardie will need power players around him to do the grunt work, and should be rotated out to the bench at least
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2026:
Ardie going to Europe is complete bullshit from his agent.
Leinster can't afford him (if they're paying him anywhere near the EUR 500k they're paying Jordie and Rieko.)
The Top 14 season is 30+ games long and get paid less than in Japan.They'd also expect him to hit a ruck as a loose forward.
Not many loose forwards hit rucks, that is what tighties or second arriving players do.
Guess who should be the arriving players Dan? McCaw hit a fuckton of rucks to secure ball. So did Cane, Papali'i, Kaino, Messam, Masoe, Kronfeld et fucking cetera.
Yep and McCaw retired 10 years ago, before the jackler winning the ball first became the seeming be all an be all. I not saying they hit none, but these jokers all played in a different era. You watch the game these days , midfield backs get as many turnovers than a lot of forwards etc..
So a response to an argument that I didn't make.
I didn't say turnovers (the very thing Ardie gives up ground defensively to attempt), I said hits rucks. Loose forwards from other teams still seem to arrive quickly and shift bodies. I wonder why that is.
No, I say once ball is won, usually in 3 seconds these days, and if you not there in 3 seconds don't bother. You only hit it after tat if ball hasn't been cleared, stay out and make yourself useful. and that's not defending Ardie or anyone (I don't care who gets picked), I saying very few hit a majority of rucks .
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
All BB wants at this age is a big pay cheque, little minutes, and the perks that come with being an AB.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
Scathing about being made the starter for almost every game?
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
maybe lacking self-awareness? truly believe theyre untouchable
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
BB is nothing more than a bench player at best. Ardie will need power players around him to do the grunt work, and should be rotated out to the bench at least
Dirt Tracker and standards driver on South African Sojourn.
Can play Beaver role in 2027 RWC final if required.
Beyond that I see no use for the chap.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
All BB wants at this age is a big pay cheque, little minutes, and the perks that come with being an AB.
You know him do you Canes?? You certainly seem too if you know what his ambitions are.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
maybe lacking self-awareness? truly believe theyre untouchable
Or maybe they actually care about the ABs and didn't think Razor was doing a good job, regardless of whether they played or not?
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