All Blacks 2026
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
Credit to Razor for not dragging it out or going publicly toxic .
He gave it his best crack.
We move forward
exactly, i think fozzie should probably have done the same earlier, the team culture might not have been as bad as now but it was clear he was out of ideas
I just think that the likes of Fozzie got gun-shy after the previous decade of success.
They had shared too many beers and too many battles with Beaudy, TJP, Cane et al. Brothers in arms.
They couldnt make the hard calls when the time came.
You cant have an over the hill game driver having so much influence on the team. Its one thing to carry a geriatric hooker or prop in a squad but your 10? Come on.
Even the New England Patriots parted with Tom Brady in the end (and he went on to win another Super Bowl elsewhere) , the Bulls with Jordan, Man United with Roy Keane. It's never easy but the show must go on.
Razor and Fozzie made difficult jobs far harder than they needed to be.
Razor in particular has made a complete mess of his chance.
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not meaning at all to make this a razor v Fozzie thing ,thats been done to death,
but i do find it very interesting the players turned on him as opposed to going into bat for Fozzie , love to know more on why .
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Virgil said in All Blacks 2026:
@allblackfan2 said in All Blacks 2026:
@JayCee Me too...I would even have his baby.....if I still had ovaries
Good lord, so there is a baby then!
Not mine, thank goodness.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
not meaning at all to make this a razor v Fozzie thing ,thats been done to death,
but i do find it very interesting the players turned on him as opposed to going into bat for Fozzie , love to know more on why .
Um, he treated them with fairness transparency and respect?
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Yeah this is re the informative Smudge post.
Seems any sort of "main stream" media in NZ is super careful about what they say about NZ rugby, ABs in particular.
Almost like they are happy for foreign media (ireland FFS) to get it "out there" then they feel safe to comment on that.But TSF doesn't give a flying fuck about any of that BS.
And all that Liam Lawson Stuff is kinda weird.
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The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
not meaning at all to make this a razor v Fozzie thing ,thats been done to death,
but i do find it very interesting the players turned on him as opposed to going into bat for Fozzie , love to know more on why .
Um, he treated them with fairness transparency and respect?
It sounds to me like
a the players had problems with Hansen (and strategy)
b Robertson didn't listen to them and/or make changes
c when he said Hansen was basically doing the coaching that just turned everything nuclear for players (and possibly NZR and some support staff?)NB it wasn't just Mealamu and Kirk reviewing, they also had ex high performance guy Don Tricker back..(or at least contributing from overseas I read when he is part of review boards things generally change).
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:
The curious thing in all this is that it sounds like the senior players led the charge, but they're also the ones that have benefited most from the Razor regime.
Beauden Barrett, Ardie Savea etc have benefited from Robertson's blinkers, but it sounds like they want him gone.
Maybe so, but perhaps even they didn't like losing so often and so badly
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Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
BB is nothing more than a bench player at best. Ardie will need power players around him to do the grunt work, and should be rotated out to the bench at least
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2026:
Ardie going to Europe is complete bullshit from his agent.
Leinster can't afford him (if they're paying him anywhere near the EUR 500k they're paying Jordie and Rieko.)
The Top 14 season is 30+ games long and get paid less than in Japan.They'd also expect him to hit a ruck as a loose forward.
Not many loose forwards hit rucks, that is what tighties or second arriving players do.
Guess who should be the arriving players Dan? McCaw hit a fuckton of rucks to secure ball. So did Cane, Papali'i, Kaino, Messam, Masoe, Kronfeld et fucking cetera.
Yep and McCaw retired 10 years ago, before the jackler winning the ball first became the seeming be all an be all. I not saying they hit none, but these jokers all played in a different era. You watch the game these days , midfield backs get as many turnovers than a lot of forwards etc..
So a response to an argument that I didn't make.
I didn't say turnovers (the very thing Ardie gives up ground defensively to attempt), I said hits rucks. Loose forwards from other teams still seem to arrive quickly and shift bodies. I wonder why that is.
No, I say once ball is won, usually in 3 seconds these days, and if you not there in 3 seconds don't bother. You only hit it after tat if ball hasn't been cleared, stay out and make yourself useful. and that's not defending Ardie or anyone (I don't care who gets picked), I saying very few hit a majority of rucks .
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
All BB wants at this age is a big pay cheque, little minutes, and the perks that come with being an AB.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster selected BB at 10, and was absolutely getting fired until he made the change and shifted him out for good.
Razor put BB back at 10, kept him there, and now has been fired.
New coach better look at patterns
Rumour has it even BB was scathing in his review of that decision.
Scathing about being made the starter for almost every game?
