All Blacks 2026
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@Darth-Sader Sorry, but he appointed Ellison and Hansen, so he does.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2026:
@Darth-Sader Sorry, but he appointed Ellison and Hansen, so he does.
Well, I can’t disagree there…
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@handa457 said in All Blacks 2026:
From quite a few different conversations. This is roughly how things played out, as best I’ve been able to piece together. It’s from a few sources, so there are probably some gaps in here too. Been a bit on the fence about sharing this because can’t confirm a few details but here goes.
@Landers92 you’re very connected to this as well so feel free to add anything I’ve missed.
Players went to Razor with some major culture / strategy / communication concerns and asked if he could work with them to solve them.
He promised that he would.
He then made the exact opposite decisions without consulting or communicating with them.
He then limited (some?) access to himself and directed feedback to more frequently go through Hansen.From that point onwards, players seem to have not only felt like they no longer had a voice, but were dismissed when they approached Hansen with the same concerns. At the same time an islander contingent began to feel they were losing their voice.
At some stage, some staff stepped in to bridge the gap and were rebuffed too, unclear whether by Hansen or Razor. This may have happened multiple times.
Somewhere along the line, you had a strategy camp who had issues with management and direction, and island players who felt directly targeted by non-selections they believed were aimed at them for having expressed concerns rather than based on performance. (It may well have been about performance, but perception often becomes reality.)
A big piece of feedback I’ve heard is that when it came to managing people bringing issues to him, he seemed completely lost. In fact, “lost” is probably too kind. In most instances, he appears to have given the worst possible replies, alienating people who were trying to work with him to solve problems. This especially seems to be the case with Savea, the islander boys and some staff. May be true of wider camp but can’t confirm.
Some people who genuinely cared stepped in to try and work with him, and he just didn’t seem to recognise that they were trying to help him.
So he's autistic.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:
i wouldn't mind an overseas defence coach, someone to bring a new approach.
Competence?
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks 2026:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2026:
@Darth-Sader It's good to reflect on how poor the performances were, and head off any "hard done by" talk. These were the biggest scores conceded of all time. Addressing these defensive deficiencies must be priority number one.
Sure, but you could pull up the same for Foster. I was being facetious, but I agree it makes a pretty clear point. I’m just not sure the man needs to be kicked while he’s down right now.
Fuck off.
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@Smudge said in All Blacks 2026:
So who has played their last test?
This is quite an interesting question.
Is team Razor disruptive. Are they going to be shitty.
Is a guy like Codie Taylor, albeit still playing great footy too closely aligned with Razor following more than a decade of playing under him.
Will Scott Barrett play for the ABs again?
Will Razor's boy Richie Mo'unga have the desire to come back and play under someone that isn't rugby dad?
Then we can probably say it is the end of Christie, Bower, Reece, Blackadder (properly this time), McAlister.
Then there will be others who may have sat in the Razor camp that could just disappear.
The incoming coach may wish to have are you in or are you out conversations prior to selection. Aaying that they doubt they may be in with the new set up.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
I lot of Hate on Crusaders sites by the public for BB and Savea looks like they will get a great welcome when they turn up in CHCH.
Not that I want to see it,not the way to react.That's a shame. Hung drawn and quartered by rumours. What if some of the senior players with adverse feedback were also Crusaders...
Exactly my point about I don’t want to see that reaction
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@Unite said in All Blacks 2026:
Is this press conference going to be live streamed?
Stuff has a link in this article:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360924860/scott-robertson-sacked-all-blacks-coach
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2026:
@Darth-Sader It's good to reflect on how poor the performances were, and head off any "hard done by" talk. These were the biggest scores conceded of all time. Addressing these defensive deficiencies must be priority number one.
You just made me pissed off again watching those performances at some of the players as well as the coaches.
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I don't see Scott Barrett getting dumped- he is a world class lock who didn't look comfortable as captain and it affected his performances.
Looked like he really didn't want the job but Razor wanted a Crusader as his skipper... just my thoughts but I expect him to play a big part in the new regime just not as captain but in leadership group...
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:
@Smudge said in All Blacks 2026:
So who has played their last test?
This is quite an interesting question.
Is team Razor disruptive. Are they going to be shitty.
Is a guy like Codie Taylor, albeit still playing great footy too closely aligned with Razor following more than a decade of playing under him.
Codie has been one of the best players! Def first pick at hooker.
Bower has actually done a good backup job, not sure why you are including him. I don't think SB is the problem but he's not my pick for captain (even given the lack of competition).
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