All Blacks 2026
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
The camp was to be on Sunday I presume Hanson and Ryan are running it they are still as of now the coaches they havn’t been moved on yet.Offically they are the AB coaches now.
If I was NZR I would not be having a camp until this is all sorted.Maybe that is what will happen.There is no point. Postpone it until a new team is announced
That would be the logical thing to do.
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If Razor wasn't really coaching and was more motivating does that not mean that Hansen/Ryan were doing the majority of actual coaching and perhaps they are to blame for the stupid tactics and play? I don't know how any of them keep their jobs, should be a clean slate and everyone applies.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
Ironic if JJ gets the job and keeps Hanson,
They did get on well and had a good working relationship along with Brown with Japan for a couple of years through to the WC when Japan did well.I hope he's smart enough to realise that Hansen is persona non grata with the team now. Otherwise he isn't the man we're looking for
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2026:
If Razor wasn't really coaching and was more motivating does that not mean that Hansen/Ryan were doing the majority of actual coaching and perhaps they are to blame for the stupid tactics and play? I don't know how any of them keep their jobs, should be a clean slate and everyone applies.
Watching the Kirk presser now
He states that a new coach would be able to appoint their own assistant coaches.
Basically reading between the lines its a matter of timing
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2026:
If Razor wasn't really coaching and was more motivating does that not mean that Hansen/Ryan were doing the majority of actual coaching and perhaps they are to blame for the stupid tactics and play? I don't know how any of them keep their jobs, should be a clean slate and everyone applies.
Watching the Kirk presser now
He states that a new coach would be able to appoint their own assistant coaches.
Basically reading between the lines its a matter of timing
Hopefully those coaches have to be cleared by Kirk first...
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
The camp was to be on Sunday I presume Hanson and Ryan are running it they are still as of now the coaches they havn’t been moved on yet.Offically they are the AB coaches now.
If I was NZR I would not be having a camp until this is all sorted.Maybe that is what will happen.So it is a strength and conditioning camp which doesn’t actually require the coaches.
If it does go ahead I doubt Ryan and Hansen will be present
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
Ironic if JJ gets the job and keeps Hanson,
They did get on well and had a good working relationship along with Brown with Japan for a couple of years through to the WC when Japan did well.I hope he's smart enough to realise that Hansen is persona non grata with the team now. Otherwise he isn't the man we're looking for
I would expect he would just throwing out a quirky what if,it would be funny though.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
The camp was to be on Sunday I presume Hanson and Ryan are running it they are still as of now the coaches they havn’t been moved on yet.Offically they are the AB coaches now.
If I was NZR I would not be having a camp until this is all sorted.Maybe that is what will happen.So it is a strength and conditioning camp which doesn’t actually require the coaches.
If it does go ahead I doubt Ryan and Hansen will be present
Not going ahead I hear .
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
The camp was to be on Sunday I presume Hanson and Ryan are running it they are still as of now the coaches they havn’t been moved on yet.Offically they are the AB coaches now.
If I was NZR I would not be having a camp until this is all sorted.Maybe that is what will happen.So it is a strength and conditioning camp which doesn’t actually require the coaches.
If it does go ahead I doubt Ryan and Hansen will be present
Ryan and Hanson could have been there they are the only paid offical AB coaches as of now.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
Ironic if JJ gets the job and keeps Hanson,
They did get on well and had a good working relationship along with Brown with Japan for a couple of years through to the WC when Japan did well.I hope he's smart enough to realise that Hansen is persona non grata with the team now. Otherwise he isn't the man we're looking for
I would expect he would just throwing out a quirky what if,it would be funny though.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Kirk is very savvy
I thought he looked a little uncomfortable at times, searching for the right words/answers.
Really? I thought he was thoughtful, diplomatic about Razor's shortcomings, tried to reassure that he hadn't made a unilateral decision, assured that care would be taken in choosing the next coach. Now he has to deliver that. ASAP
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@ploughboy said in All Blacks 2026:
I wonder with timing of this and the short notice for getting coaches out of their contracts wither we will need a director of coaching role to start with and coaches added as they become available.
sounds like a good idea.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Kirk is very savvy
I thought he looked a little uncomfortable at times, searching for the right words/answers.
Absolute night and day improvement to Mark Robinson I thought.
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I'm mildly surprised that Comms/losing the players was the issue since that was Robertson's biggest strength with both Canterbury and the Crusaders. He was generally a good (coaching) team builder too.
Perhaps he struggled with the transition from clearly delineated campaigns to the endless death struggle of test rugby.
Will be very interesting to see what he does next. He's young enough that he can take some time out, get some more experience elsewhere and have a second crack if he wants to.
I don't think you can be as successful as he's been without being a phenomenal coach. Its a question of whether he can/wants to step back from what's happened, figure out what went wrong and try to improve. His rep in Canterbury is that he can do that. But maybe too much success has gone to his head and he'll take off overseas convinced that he's always right, a bit like Robbie Deans.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Kirk is very savvy
I thought he looked a little uncomfortable at times, searching for the right words/answers.
Absolute night and day improvement to Mark Robinson I thought.
He was a bumbler.
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@Cyclops said in All Blacks 2026:
I'm mildly surprised that Comms/losing the players was the issue since that was Robertson's biggest strength with both Canterbury and the Crusaders. He was generally a good (coaching) team builder too.
Perhaps he struggled with the transition from clearly delineated campaigns to the endless death struggle of test rugby.
Will be very interesting to see what he does next. He's young enough that he can take some time out, get some more experience elsewhere and have a second crack if he wants to.
I don't think you can be as successful as he's been without being a phenomenal coach. Its a question of whether he can/wants to step back from what's happened, figure out what went wrong and try to improve. His rep in Canterbury is that he can do that. But maybe too much success has gone to his head and he'll take off overseas convinced that he's always right, a bit like Robbie Deans.
Sounds like he ignored concerns from his senior player group. Not wise
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@Cyclops said in All Blacks 2026:
But maybe too much success has gone to his head
Yeah it feels like that would be the most likely occurrence - just perhaps lost himself up his own arse and went down the wrong track as to where his success actually came from. His "fame" was quite largely based on him being the quirky innovator with the big happy clappy outlook.
