All Blacks 2026
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble I believe Kirk would have plans in place already. SuperRugby only 4 weeks away NZR will want it sorted by then. Perhaps Brown wasn't even on the list.
Or Joseph ? as Brown said no one knows what is going on and JJ is his best mate.and it will be difficult to find another coach at this time.
Why would he say that if JJ was lined up as coach.“I'm very surprised,” Brown the The Post. “I didn't think they would do that, especially with no one waiting to take over.
“[It’s] definitely not [going to be easy] for them [to find a replacement], especially without a CEO and high-performance manager, so there's lots of things for them to get sorted pretty quickly.
“All the [Springboks] coaches have been chatting on chat groups and things like that, so everyone's pretty surprised and amazed at what's what's been happening.”
On suggestions he could take on a position as an assistant with the All Blacks, Brown added: “Everything's just speculation. I'm not even sure what New Zealand Rugby's plans are. No one's really heard anything.”
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.I think Brown would know, all these reported sightings of Joseph and Brown together I am sure they would talked about it
Why would he say that if he didn't think it..Here in Australia, in afl and nrl , when players and coaches are questioned on contracts, you take their answers with a grain of salt .
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@lak said in All Blacks 2026:
I think we need someone to take a hammer to the poisonous environment we find ourselves in, smash the tick tock if you will.
What is this poisonous environment? All I know for sure that the review (from coaches/management/players) for Robertson was that there were some problems with his direction. He couldn't convince High perfrormnce manager and chair that he had answers , so he was given his cards. Isn't everything else just wild speculation on internet?
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.I think Brown would know, all these reported sightings of Joseph and Brown together I am sure they would talked about it
Why would he say that if he didn't think it..Here in Australia, in afl and nrl , when players and coaches are questioned on contracts, you take their answers with a grain of salt .
They are like politicians.Yes best to say nothing but he has said a fair bit.which he didn't need to but knowing Brown he is an honest person.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.I think Brown would know, all these reported sightings of Joseph and Brown together I am sure they would talked about it
Why would he say that if he didn't think it..Here in Australia, in afl and nrl , when players and coaches are questioned on contracts, you take their answers with a grain of salt .
They are like politicians.i feel theyre a little more vague when they give their answers though, that seems pretty candid
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
Well you would think things must’ve been pretty bad to fire him without a succession plan in place if that’s the case .
I was optimistic they had the next step ready to goThat's why it makes the most sense for the next all black coaching team to be drawn mainly from coaches already contracted to the NZRU
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble I believe Kirk would have plans in place already. SuperRugby only 4 weeks away NZR will want it sorted by then. Perhaps Brown wasn't even on the list.
Or Joseph ? as Brown said no one knows what is going on and JJ is his best mate.and it will be difficult to find another coach at this time.
Why would he say that if JJ was lined up as coach.“I'm very surprised,” Brown the The Post. “I didn't think they would do that, especially with no one waiting to take over.
“[It’s] definitely not [going to be easy] for them [to find a replacement], especially without a CEO and high-performance manager, so there's lots of things for them to get sorted pretty quickly.
“All the [Springboks] coaches have been chatting on chat groups and things like that, so everyone's pretty surprised and amazed at what's what's been happening.”
On suggestions he could take on a position as an assistant with the All Blacks, Brown added: “Everything's just speculation. I'm not even sure what New Zealand Rugby's plans are. No one's really heard anything.”
Chris, please read the newly published rules at the top of this forum., regarding paywalls.
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@Smudge said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble I believe Kirk would have plans in place already. SuperRugby only 4 weeks away NZR will want it sorted by then. Perhaps Brown wasn't even on the list.
Or Joseph ? as Brown said no one knows what is going on and JJ is his best mate.and it will be difficult to find another coach at this time.
Why would he say that if JJ was lined up as coach.“I'm very surprised,” Brown the The Post. “I didn't think they would do that, especially with no one waiting to take over.
“[It’s] definitely not [going to be easy] for them [to find a replacement], especially without a CEO and high-performance manager, so there's lots of things for them to get sorted pretty quickly.
“All the [Springboks] coaches have been chatting on chat groups and things like that, so everyone's pretty surprised and amazed at what's what's been happening.”
On suggestions he could take on a position as an assistant with the All Blacks, Brown added: “Everything's just speculation. I'm not even sure what New Zealand Rugby's plans are. No one's really heard anything.”
Chris, please read the newly published rules at the top of this forum., regarding paywalls.
Ok noted mate.Will refrain from doing that.
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To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.I think Brown would know, all these reported sightings of Joseph and Brown together I am sure they would talked about it
Why would he say that if he didn't think it..Here in Australia, in afl and nrl , when players and coaches are questioned on contracts, you take their answers with a grain of salt .
They are like politicians.Yes they can't just come out and announce stuff willy nilly.
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
Well at end of year we could be looking at anything, whether likely I would find hard to agree with until we see who is coaching and playing .
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
One thing I just don't buy is that we don't have the cattle. We do. It's about finding ways to get the best out of this cattle.
It's acceptable to say a side like the Highlanders don't have the cattle, but I don't accept for one second that this AB side doesn't have the cattle. It's a cop out.
The skills? Under the previous regime, yes, some of the skills in certain areas were lacking, but I do put some of that down to the coaching team.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.so you think theyre lying when they said it would be an open process and hes lying when he says he hasn't heard from them?
any chance NZR was arrogant enough to assume everyone would come running....and they wont?
I do think the kind of person we need (as well as the obvious pedigree) is the confidence to think they can go to SA and win
edit: i notice he said till the next world cup rather than 2031 like Rassie, there were reports he was pushing to have all his assistants signed up to the same
Yep. Having a fair idea of the type of coach they want and letting potential candidates they are looking to put the job spec out there isn't incompatible with an open process.
Well, I hope so anyway.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
One thing I just don't buy is that we don't have the cattle. We do. It's about finding ways to get the best out of this cattle.
It's acceptable to say a side like the Highlanders don't have the cattle, but I don't accept for one second that this AB side doesn't have the cattle. It's a cop out.
The skills? Under the previous regime, yes, some of the skills in certain areas were lacking, but I do put some of that down to the coaching team.
And some down to players reclining form some due to miles on the clock.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
I noticed that Brown didn't dismiss the job out of hand, he's just not heard anything.....
Well he has now, says he with Boks until 2027, no out clause.
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
To make it very clear, Robertson needed to go. But, there is no way in hell this team is suddenly going to turn it around in 12 months. No way. Don’t have the cattle, don’t have the skills. After all, beating the ABs last year was literally down to kicking contestable kicks. At the end of the year we could likely be looking at:
- First loss at our fancy new Stadium to what will be a 1st string French team
- First loss at Eden park in how every many years (against Ireland)
- Potentially the Bledisloe gone (least likely)
- How much are Scotland fancying their chances on that first Nh game?
Strap yourself in guys. This could get seriously ugly
I said more then once last year that I expected this season to be ugly anyway, based on our lack of progress with Razor. This is a high risk manoeuvre by the NZRU, but I'm not convinced Razor was about to turn the corner so the next lot can't do much worse. As many have said, if they stick to basics and build unity that will be a solid start
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.so you think theyre lying when they said it would be an open process and hes lying when he says he hasn't heard from them?
any chance NZR was arrogant enough to assume everyone would come running....and they wont?
I do think the kind of person we need (as well as the obvious pedigree) is the confidence to think they can go to SA and win
edit: i notice he said till the next world cup rather than 2031 like Rassie, there were reports he was pushing to have all his assistants signed up to the same
Yep. Having a fair idea of the type of coach they want and letting potential candidates they are looking to put the job spec out there isn't incompatible with an open process.
Well, I hope so anyway.
was more specifically to George saying he would be surprised if they didnt already have someone signed up
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris find that hard to believe.
NZR will have there next group lined up if not signed up who ever it maybe.
Time is running out fast.so you think theyre lying when they said it would be an open process and hes lying when he says he hasn't heard from them?
any chance NZR was arrogant enough to assume everyone would come running....and they wont?
I do think the kind of person we need (as well as the obvious pedigree) is the confidence to think they can go to SA and win
edit: i notice he said till the next world cup rather than 2031 like Rassie, there were reports he was pushing to have all his assistants signed up to the same
Yep. Having a fair idea of the type of coach they want and letting potential candidates they are looking to put the job spec out there isn't incompatible with an open process.
Well, I hope so anyway.
Of course not surely. Like any job that is advertised, you let applicants know what skills etc you looking for,
