All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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@Victor-Meldrew That is interesting although I wonder if the child they have running their social media knows more than whatever all over the place NZH headquarters water cooler talk we get on here.
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Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
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@booboo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
Last man standing at the moment.
Wonder how much of this is blowback after the shabby way NZR has selected and treated coaches in the last 6-7 years.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@booboo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
Last man standing at the moment.
Wonder how much of this is blowback after the shabby way NZR has selected and treated coaches in the last 6-7 years.
I would have thought Vern's job at the Blues was safe if he still wanted it
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@sparky Bugger!
I thought he could offer the steel that has been missing.
Who would have predicted 15-20 years ago NZ would struggle to find anyone who actually wants to coach the AB's.
Jamie has the job as he seems the only one who is left with a passport that wants it.
But even he must be thinking his assistant pickings are getting mighty slim.
Offer Rennie whatever he wants to be HC or Ass... -
It's going to be disappointing if we only get one of the coaches we want and a bunch of worthless assistants.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
It's going to be disappointing if we only get one of the coaches we want and a bunch of worthless assistants.
It's not just a dysfunctional coaching set up which is causing problems, it's also a dysfunctional NZR. Things look like being fixed, but there'll be bumps along the way
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@kidcalder said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@sparky Bugger!
I thought he could offer the steel that has been missing.
Who would have predicted 15-20 years ago NZ would struggle to find anyone who actually wants to coach the AB's.
Jamie has the job as he seems the only one who is left with a passport that wants it.
But even he must be thinking his assistant pickings are getting mighty slim.
Offer Rennie whatever he wants to be HC or Ass...What if Ardie doesn't like that steel? Where would that have left Cotter?
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There is a lot of overreaction going on here.
Peter Kean, Owner of the Highlanders, had been talking to David Kirk a lot in the weeks leading up to Razor’s sacking.
My source had no clue what the conversations were about, but given the events that have followed, you can probably piece things together.
By making Joseph NZ XV coach, they kind of showed their hand - Cotter was not in their thinking.
I had heard Schmidt as Director of Rugby, and believe that is something that will eventually happen, but he is going to owner his agreement with Australia. Given this is not a coaching role, and is a job he could hold for say 10 years, I guess timing is not everything.
Tony Brown has ‘ruled himself out’ - I’d wait on that. We all know he wants to work with Jamie Joseph, so without knowing the terms of his contract it is impossible to say what might unfold.
As for other assistants, I think it is likely Jamie would want a thinner coaching team anyway, but half the assistants probably stay.
Assuming Joseph does get the job, and the selection process, is simply a process, I would then imagine he will meet individually with each of the coaches.
I have heard he gets on fine with Jason Ryan, and given he reviewed fine, I think it is likely he keeps his job. The alternate is seemingly Jamie Mackintosh, who would be easy to get.
We know he has coached with Scott Hansen before, but down to pure optics I’d be surprised if he is kept on. I think Brown is likely to be the target for the attack, but if the truly can’t get him, then Kenny Lynn, who Joseph rates highly, is the probable target. I would imagine getting him out of his Argentina contract would be doable. Given Leon McDonald is his cousin, don’t discount that either.
Jamie also gets on well with Tamati Ellison, so would not be stunned to see him retained too - though there were question marks around the defence. I think both Cory Jane and David Kidwell would be in the frame, both heavily attainable.
I am yet to see any credible evidence that NZR won’t get their new preferred coaching team over the line.
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@frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
There is a lot of overreaction going on here.
Peter Kean, Owner of the Highlanders, had been talking to David Kirk a lot in the weeks leading up to Razor’s sacking.
My source had no clue what the conversations were about, but given the events that have followed, you can probably piece things together.
By making Joseph NZ XV coach, they kind of showed their hand - Cotter was not in their thinking.
I had heard Schmidt as Director of Rugby, and believe that is something that will eventually happen, but he is going to owner his agreement with Australia. Given this is not a coaching role, and is a job he could hold for say 10 years, I guess timing is not everything.
Tony Brown has ‘ruled himself out’ - I’d wait on that. We all know he wants to work with Jamie Joseph, so without knowing the terms of his contract it is impossible to say what might unfold.
As for other assistants, I think it is likely Jamie would want a thinner coaching team anyway, but half the assistants probably stay.
Assuming Joseph does get the job, and the selection process, is simply a process, I would then imagine he will meet individually with each of the coaches.
I have heard he gets on fine with Jason Ryan, and given he reviewed fine, I think it is likely he keeps his job. The alternate is seemingly Jamie Mackintosh, who would be easy to get.
We know he has coached with Scott Hansen before, but down to pure optics I’d be surprised if he is kept on. I think Brown is likely to be the target for the attack, but if the truly can’t get him, then Kenny Lynn, who Joseph rates highly, is the probable target. I would imagine getting him out of his Argentina contract would be doable. Given Leon McDonald is his cousin, don’t discount that either.
Jamie also gets on well with Tamati Ellison, so would not be stunned to see him retained too - though there were question marks around the defence. I think both Cory Jane and David Kidwell would be in the frame, both heavily attainable.
I am yet to see any credible evidence that NZR won’t get their new preferred coaching team over the line.
You're dead right. I made reference to it earlier, just because we're not being given live updates on who the coach will be, doesn't mean that things aren't working away in the background. As it should be, it's being kept a secret and is being played behind closed doors.
Having said that, I would be shocked if JJ didn't get the gig. I feel like it's his unless he doesn't want it.
