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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Could just as easily coach Australia though, maybe in the other code if he so felt like it.

    This is where NZR needs to get it's act together and start taking to him sooner rather than later. Let him know they are watching his coaching career.

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    @reprobate

    Your individual points have a degree of validity, but the whole thing is a strawman because I never tried to list the reasons Robertson shouldn't have been selected. If I were to, top of the list would be: 'hearing the nonsense that comes out of the fluffybunny's mouth'.

    You listed powerpoint and perceived charisma as the reasons he was selected, neglecting to mention his coaching success - which seems like a sizeable (and spiteful and petty) oversight. You'll defend and sympathise with Foster on just about everything and try to slight Robertson at every opportunity - the difference in your attitude to the two is absolutely glaring.

    Do you actually know Foster, is that it?

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    @george33 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @Chris Hope Ryan is gone also.Lets just start again.
    If it is Joseph he's going to need some good knowledge around him.
    Most likely a new captain also.

    The thing is the players like Ryan,wether that makes a difference I don't know.
    Yeah new Captain new coaches normally come in and pick their Captain which probably will be someone else.

    The thing is if they sack all the assistants under Razor and Rennie doesn't jump on board.
    The assistants like Jane etc really don't have any international experience which doesn't make much sense if only the HC has international experience and the board wants that you would expect the same applies to some of the assistants.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Yeah new Captain new coaches normally come in and pick their Captain which probably will be someone else.

    I hope so. No reflection on Scooter and he plays his heart out, but he never looked comfortable as Captain

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    @mohikamo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @Chris said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    t has ended up that way just going through the process so it is seen to be done.

    I think there is more to it than that.
    This aint just about the senior XV.
    For example the recent appointment of the new BF HC doesn't look good at a superficial glance.
    I'd be hoping that a thorough process was gone thru leading to that appointment.

    They are also struggling to find a CEO.It is a mess past boards Ceos etc have produced a lot of miss trust.
    There are a few bridges to be built.
    Joseph has the job he has for a while.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @Chris said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Yeah new Captain new coaches normally come in and pick their Captain which probably will be someone else.

    I hope so. No reflection on Scooter and he plays his heart out, but he never looked comfortable as Captain

    Didn't help that it's now clear the team was fractured as well. Taine Randall V2

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    Wait, Brad Thorn?? Look, he's done a couple of brilliant podcasts in the last couple of weeks (is he looking for a job?) but his Reds team was pretty fucking average, and he finished with a win percentage in the mid-40s that includes when they only got to play the shit Australian teams.

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    actually I thought Brad was named forwards and strength cond. coach for Malta.
    There you go, international test experience.
    Good place to land some falcons.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    actually I thought Brad was named forwards and strength cond. coach for Malta.
    There you go, international test experience.
    Good place to land some falcons.

    I thought this was an excuse to bust out a Dad joke but it is in fact true

    They'd certainly go into every attacking play head first.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Is this true or just an excuse for you to bust out a lame Dad joke ?

    I'd hate to steal your thunder.

    Apologies, Google confirms this did in fact happen.

    Go to the sauce. I think his wife is a Malteser (no, not a biscuit).
    https://www.facebook.com/mixjarebha/posts/-exciting-times-for-malta-rugbythe-malta-rugby-football-union-is-thrilled-to-wel/1108856727890476/

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Is this true or just an excuse for you to bust out a lame Dad joke ?

    I'd hate to steal your thunder.

    Apologies, Google confirms this did in fact happen.

    Go to the sauce. I think his wife is a Malteser (no, not a biscuit).
    https://www.facebook.com/mixjarebha/posts/-exciting-times-for-malta-rugbythe-malta-rugby-football-union-is-thrilled-to-wel/1108856727890476/

    Good enough for me. Add his name to the list. He'd certainly know more about Strength and Conditioning than all the other candidates combined.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Good enough for me. Add his name to the list. He'd certainly know more about Strength and Conditioning than all the other candidates combined.

    I doubt his wife wants to leave the ancestral homeland in a hurry. But boy it can get hot there.
    I also read fan complaints he scared away players by having certain rigid views. Which surprises me, because, QLD.

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    Dane Coles is the former All Black on the selection panel

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Good enough for me. Add his name to the list. He'd certainly know more about Strength and Conditioning than all the other candidates combined.

    I doubt his wife wants to leave the ancestral homeland in a hurry. But boy it can get hot there.
    I also read fan complaints he scared away players by having certain rigid views. Which surprises me, because, QLD.

    I've never met his wife so I can't comment on where she'd like to live but from his podcast when he discussed his coaching I think he'd be quite open to different views.

    I could be completely wrong cos I've never met Brad either, I did walk past him on the street some years back though.

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    @Wurzel said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    Dane Coles is the former All Black on the selection panel

    reliable source? can someone confirm...is he one of those players you hear about that was...."full on" on the pitch but secretly quote smart etc off the pitch?

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    Coles who came into first class rugby getting coached by Joseph at Wrllington.

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    @Wurzel Woohoo that is fucking great news.
    Always loved his do not fuck with us attitude.
    Aura will be back soon.

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    More about DC's involvement here - https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360933948/nz-rugby-confirms-ex-all-black-dane-coles-joins-appointment-panel-select-coach

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    a masterclass in wishful thinking by NZR.

    complacency/arrogance/hubris . . .

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    @mariner4life

    all aus union teams are shit, doesn't seem to matter who is coaching them

    the list of candidates is restricted, and not overly inspiring (to me), Thorn fits right in there
    ironically, I thought the last incumbent was very well qualified, but he looked certain to be headed for a crash

    the task in front of the new coach is severe, may be a left field appointment might be the go
    Rassie was a bit like that when he got his gig
    a good chance it could still end badly no matter who they go with

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