World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017
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Incredible balls on that kid!
I agree that NZ as a sporting country is big enough and strong enough in many disciplines for it's supreme awards to only go to winners, and not triers.
In other news, I see that Ronaldo picked up his fifth Ballon D'or last night. Its insane that him and Messi have won 5 each of the last 10. Surely these 2 deserve to be ranked with Pele & Maradona has the greatest players the game has seen. I haven't really seen enough of Messi play to have that much of an opinion, but I have seen a bit of Ronaldo and he's an absolute freak.
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The full list of winners:
Fan's Try of the Year: Portia Woodman (Black Ferns)
NZRPA Kirk Award: DJ Forbes
Charles Monro Rugby Volunteer of the Year: Sid Tatana (Wairarapa Bush)
New Zealand Rugby Referee of the Year: Ben O'Keeffe (Wellington)
New Zealand Rugby Age Grade Player of the Year: Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
Heartland Championship Player of the Year: Scott Cameron (Horowhenua Kapiti)
Richard Crawshaw Memorial All Blacks Sevens Player of the Year: DJ Forbes (Counties Manukau)
Black Ferns Sevens Player of the Year: Ruby Tui (Canterbury)
Duane Monkley Medal: Jack Goodhue (Northland)
Fiao'o Fa'amausili Medal: Hazel Tubic (Counties Manukau)
Super Rugby Player of the Year: Sam Whitelock (Crusaders)
Tom French Memorial Māori Player of the Year: Rieko Ioane (Ngāpuhi / Te Whānau ā Apanui)
Salver for an Outstanding Contribution to New Zealand Rugby: Wayne Smith
Coach of the Year: Glenn Moore (Black Ferns)
New Zealand Rugby Women's Player of the Year: Sarah Goss (Manawatu)
Kelvin R Tremain Memorial Player of the Year: Sam Whitelock
Team of the Year: Black Ferns
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Some were quite predictable, others not so much, but IMO the awards went to the right winners.
Yep, can't really argue with any of those. all deserved.
IMO though (and it is a 'fans award'), although I loved the Woodman try, the one that made me really cheer and get excited by the sheer audacity and skill was Tony Pulu's finish off the DMac, Lowe, Messam interchanges. That was one to watch over and over. -
@crucial That was a great try, but the problem with team tries like that one is that the player who scored it would get the award, while most of the work before scoring was done by others. So, in that way, I think the award went to the right player.
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@crucial That was a great try, but the problem with team tries like that one is that the player who scored it would get the award, while most of the work before scoring was done by others. So, in that way, I think the award went to the right player.
Fair point
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@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Some were quite predictable, others not so much, but IMO the awards went to the right winners.
Yep, can't really argue with any of those. all deserved.
IMO though (and it is a 'fans award'), although I loved the Woodman try, the one that made me really cheer and get excited by the sheer audacity and skill was Tony Pulu's finish off the DMac, Lowe, Messam interchanges. That was one to watch over and over.given it is 'try of the year' not 'individual try' of the year I tend to agree...but everything else was (rightly) going Black Ferns so this was too.,
Interesting seeing comments out this morning how the Black Ferns are not a curtain raiser, they are the main event...
Question is, would they regularly sell Eden Park out if they were the main event?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Good thing they don't award these things based on reputation...
He hasn't been nearly as bad as some people here would claim, but no way did he deserve that. I thought Ioane was a lock.
Um, no he's a winger...
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@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Some were quite predictable, others not so much, but IMO the awards went to the right winners.
Yep, can't really argue with any of those. all deserved.
IMO though (and it is a 'fans award'), although I loved the Woodman try, the one that made me really cheer and get excited by the sheer audacity and skill was Tony Pulu's finish off the DMac, Lowe, Messam interchanges. That was one to watch over and over.I think that try that had me cheering the most was the Blues' winner against the Lions. Ridiculous skill.
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@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@crucial said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
Some were quite predictable, others not so much, but IMO the awards went to the right winners.
Yep, can't really argue with any of those. all deserved.
IMO though (and it is a 'fans award'), although I loved the Woodman try, the one that made me really cheer and get excited by the sheer audacity and skill was Tony Pulu's finish off the DMac, Lowe, Messam interchanges. That was one to watch over and over.given it is 'try of the year' not 'individual try' of the year I tend to agree...but everything else was (rightly) going Black Ferns so this was too.,
Interesting seeing comments out this morning how the Black Ferns are not a curtain raiser, they are the main event...
Question is, would they regularly sell Eden Park out if they were the main event?
Short answer: no. Long answer: not a chance.
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Congratulations Beauden Barrett on being named NZ Rugby player of the year!
What do you mean "he wasn't"? But he was World Rugby player of the year, surely that makes him automatically NZ rugby player of the year too?
Oh, I see. Well you can't have it all, but at least he was nominated!
What do you mean "he wasn't"? You're telling me the World Rugby player of the year couldn't even make the nomination for NZ rugby player of the year?
But what is up with World Rugby? They usually get these things right - I mean Jerome Kaino in 2011 for example.
What do you mean "he didn't"?
Oh I see. Well who did get NZ Rugby player of the year then? Let me guess - Rieko Ioane!
Not him either?!
(congratulations to Sam Whitelock :p)
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@bones and by a different panel.
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@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@bones and by a different panel.
and does that WR panel even look at how players perform in club competitions (SR, domestic comp.)?
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@stargazer I expect if BB played club or M10 Cup they'd watch him...
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@stargazer said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@taniwharugby said in World, NZ & other Rugby & Sports Awards 2017:
@bones and by a different panel.
and does that WR panel even look at how players perform in club competitions (SR, domestic comp.)?
It comes down to the player that had the biggest impact on the game in the year. DC won on the basis of one brilliant performance at a very key time at a very high level.
I doubt there is in depth analysis of all games played.In a non RWC year it does become a reward for the biggest name though. eg this year all of the NH comments about BB were around him being a great player. They just had to have the previous year pointed out to them to notice.
