European Club Rugby
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@catogrande Yeah its a bit dismissive of the actual regular wingers I thought. I wonder who those wingers might be?
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@daffy-jaffy said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande Yeah its a bit dismissive of the actual regular wingers I thought. I wonder who those wingers might be?
I'd think Penaud in France would be on a tidy sum. Maybe Johnny May in England and Keith Earls in Ireland?
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I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.
Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
Also that the everyday fans are coming to the defence of a bunch of corrupt billionaires battling against another group of corrupt billionaires
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.
Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.
It is a valid comparison if you have chosen the soccer ownership and league model.
Boris threatening all in his power to ESL yet a few weeks earlier 'lent' another 88 million to the PRL who baiscally in the process of pulling in 1 or 2 more survivors and then pulling up the drawbridge.
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.
Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.
Rugby in England is financially viable. Exeter did it fine, the problem is idiot owners inflating the market, and not relying on the massive playing pool they have available
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules
Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.
Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.
Rugby in England is financially viable. Exeter did it fine, the problem is idiot owners inflating the market, and not relying on the massive playing pool they have available
Rugby in its current format is not financially viable in England, there is simply not the paying fan base to allow for the costs involved. You can cite the length of the playing season, the sugar daddy club owners or the club structure itself and I guess they all have their part to play, but I feel the real problem is that the RFU did not take control at the advent of professionalism.
You cite Exeter as an example of it being financially viable but they really are an outlier. They were lucky, or maybe canny, in that they sold the old County Ground and an over the top valuation at the height of the house building boom. This allowed them to build a purpose built stadium and conferencing centre and still have money in the bank. The club is profitable but not from rugby. Pre Covid there was something going on at Sandy Park most days of the week all year round. For sure they are a model of how to do things but it is not an easy model to follow.
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Lima Sopoaga has signed with Lyon (2 years).
Jordan Taufua has re-signed with Lyon (1 year?).http://www.lourugby.fr/actualites/officiel-4-premieres-recrues-pour-2021-2022/25625/
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@daffy-jaffy fuck me, that's bad. How's the legend that got hit though, back to his feet before Farrell can even turn around and just ignores him.
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Heard through a contact this morning that Patrick Tuipulotu is heading to Japan next season ..
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@steven-harris He's signed through the world cup, so it would have to be a sabbatical.
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@daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.
I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.
Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.
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@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
@daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.
I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.
Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.
Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.
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@daffy-jaffy said in NH club rugby:
Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -
He's a fucking disgrace.
Dirty, dirty cheap shotting twat.
Would be nowhere near my Lions squad.
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