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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules

    Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.

    Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.

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    @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

    @machpants said in NH club rugby:

    I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules

    Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.

    Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.

    Rugby in England is financially viable. Exeter did it fine, the problem is idiot owners inflating the market, and not relying on the massive playing pool they have available

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      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

      @machpants said in NH club rugby:

      I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules

      Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.

      Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.

      Rugby in England is financially viable. Exeter did it fine, the problem is idiot owners inflating the market, and not relying on the massive playing pool they have available

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      @machpants said in NH club rugby:

      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

      @machpants said in NH club rugby:

      I do find it funny the furor against the Soccer Super League, mostly on it being a 75% closed shop. Fan protest, promises of govt action, bans on international representation. Yet Premiership Rugby is getting ready to fuck over all but 13 clubs in England, at the same time as English Rugby is starving them of income. Body old boys club there, bending over to millionaires who can't even run their clubs at a profit, or even within their own rules

      Mate this is the hot topic every year, but it has not yet happened. Rugby is not a financially viable sport, certainly in comparison to soccer, so the arguments for ring fencing are so much more valid.

      Look at the situation in, ooh, let us say Ireland, Wales. Scotland, NZ. Australia. The top end in these places is completely ring fenced. England and France, not so much. Maybe that is right, maybe not, dunno. But a comparison to soccer is not really valid IMO.

      Rugby in England is financially viable. Exeter did it fine, the problem is idiot owners inflating the market, and not relying on the massive playing pool they have available

      Rugby in its current format is not financially viable in England, there is simply not the paying fan base to allow for the costs involved. You can cite the length of the playing season, the sugar daddy club owners or the club structure itself and I guess they all have their part to play, but I feel the real problem is that the RFU did not take control at the advent of professionalism.

      You cite Exeter as an example of it being financially viable but they really are an outlier. They were lucky, or maybe canny, in that they sold the old County Ground and an over the top valuation at the height of the house building boom. This allowed them to build a purpose built stadium and conferencing centre and still have money in the bank. The club is profitable but not from rugby. Pre Covid there was something going on at Sandy Park most days of the week all year round. For sure they are a model of how to do things but it is not an easy model to follow.

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        Lima Sopoaga has signed with Lyon (2 years).
        Jordan Taufua has re-signed with Lyon (1 year?).

        http://www.lourugby.fr/actualites/officiel-4-premieres-recrues-pour-2021-2022/25625/

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          Ronan O'Gara will be the new head of the professional team at La Rochelle (3 years).

          https://twitter.com/staderochelais/status/1385134334177386499


          This follows the departure of Jono Gibbes, who has been announced as the new Head Coach of Clermont (3 years).

          https://twitter.com/ASMOfficiel/status/1385130595160924160

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            Daffy Jaffy
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            #2214

            Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -

            https://twitter.com/i/status/1385147580775124995

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -

              https://twitter.com/i/status/1385147580775124995

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              @daffy-jaffy fuck me, that's bad. How's the legend that got hit though, back to his feet before Farrell can even turn around and just ignores him.

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                Heard through a contact this morning that Patrick Tuipulotu is heading to Japan next season ..

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                  Heard through a contact this morning that Patrick Tuipulotu is heading to Japan next season ..

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                  @steven-harris He's signed through the world cup, so it would have to be a sabbatical.

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                    Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -

                    https://twitter.com/i/status/1385147580775124995

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                    @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

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                      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                      @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                      I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                      Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                        @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                        I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                        Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

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                        Catogrande
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                        @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                        @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                        I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                        Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

                        Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -

                          https://twitter.com/i/status/1385147580775124995

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                          @daffy-jaffy said in NH club rugby:

                          Owen Farrell the invisible man again - No card or citing -

                          https://twitter.com/i/status/1385147580775124995

                          He's a fucking disgrace.

                          Dirty, dirty cheap shotting twat.

                          Would be nowhere near my Lions squad.

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                            Dice
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                            John Afoa's accent really surprised me.:united_kingdom:

                            https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1385297213329444877

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                            • DiceD Dice

                              John Afoa's accent really surprised me.:united_kingdom:

                              https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1385297213329444877

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                              @dice
                              Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

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                              • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                @dice
                                Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

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                                Dice
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                                @mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:

                                @dice
                                Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

                                I remember him sounding more Kiwi than this.

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                                • DiceD Dice

                                  @mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:

                                  @dice
                                  Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

                                  I remember him sounding more Kiwi than this.

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                                  Catogrande
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                                  @dice said in NH club rugby:

                                  @mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:

                                  @dice
                                  Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

                                  I remember him sounding more Kiwi than this.

                                  Either way, great interview

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                                  • DiceD Dice

                                    @mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:

                                    @dice
                                    Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

                                    I remember him sounding more Kiwi than this.

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                                    Bones
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                                    @dice said in NH club rugby:

                                    @mofitzy_ said in NH club rugby:

                                    @dice
                                    Sounds pretty kiwi to me?

                                    I remember him sounding more Kiwi than this.

                                    You reckon he sounds Irish? Definitely not to me. If anything I almost detect a bit of English Saffa.

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                                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                      @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                                      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                                      I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                                      Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

                                      Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.

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                                      pakman
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                                      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                                      @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                      @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                                      I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                                      Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

                                      Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.

                                      How can that not be referred?

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                                      • P pakman

                                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                                        I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                                        Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

                                        Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.

                                        How can that not be referred?

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                                        Catogrande
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                                        #2228

                                        @pakman said in NH club rugby:

                                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @antipodean said in NH club rugby:

                                        @catogrande said in NH club rugby:

                                        @daffy-jaffy That is piss poor from Farrell.

                                        I was amazed that all four of the refereeing team missed it, until I found out they don't have TMOs at that level.

                                        Still amazing no one thought to watch the obvious.

                                        Yeah there’s still the ref and the two touch judges and it wasn’t off the ball let alone away from the play. Crazy. Farrell has dodged that one.

                                        How can that not be referred?

                                        Ludicrous, but judiciary 🤷

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                                          cgrant
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                                          Pita Ahki was named man of the match in yesterday's HC first semi-final. Great performance both in attack and defence. Kaino and Faumuina also very good for Toulouse.

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