RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia
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@Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
So, Roigard scores a brilliant 70m individual try against the Boks, is man of the Match in his 1st start. And Christie is bloody average at best.
Let's see just how stubborn Foster is.
If he picks him, it's a tacit admission, he got it wrong by persisting with Christie.Can't win can he?
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
So, Roigard scores a brilliant 70m individual try against the Boks, is man of the Match in his 1st start. And Christie is bloody average at best.
Let's see just how stubborn Foster is.
If he picks him, it's a tacit admission, he got it wrong by persisting with Christie.Can't win can he?
he can if he wins the RWC FINAL.
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@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Pointless tweet
Add to those:
Luteru Tolai, Brian Alainu’uese, Taleni Seu, So’otala Fa’aso’o, Samuel Slade, Sa Jordan Taufua, Chris Vui, Ereatara Enari, Jonathan Taumateine, Christian Leali’ifano, D’angelo Leuila, Duncan Paia’aua, Neria Fomai, Nigel Ah Wong, Danny Toala, Paula Ngauamo, Samiuela Moli, Tau Koloamatangi, Joe Apikotoa, Sam Lousi, Augustine Pulu, Manu Paea, William Havili, Otumaka Mausia, Pita Ahki, Fini Inisi, Kyren Taumoefolau, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Craig Millar, Michael Leitch, Lomano Lemeki, Hame Faiva, Toa Halafihi, Hinckley Vaovasa, Jason Tomane, Gareth Anscombe, Jordan Uelese, Will Skelton, Lalakai Foketi, Zuriel Togiatama, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Isoa Nasilasila, and sorta Caleb Muntz.NZ have ALWAYS provided the most players at every RWC, by a factor of 3. No change
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@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
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Fucking poaching fluffybunnies
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Fucking poaching fluffybunnies
Nah, Quite a few of those were born in Tokaroa...
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@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Discarded / surplus to requirements for a lot of those players tbf
Fifita had multiple chances.
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@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
Samisoni's throwing was noticeably more accurate than Coles in this game: Coles had his targets catching the ball at head height, rather than stretching high for them - against a better side some of them would probably be picked off. And we lack power which he has, so in this pack he is easily the best hooker, despite Foster mucking him around for 1.5 years waiting for Taylor to come right.
Coles is still a very mobile hooker, and does seem likely to be the first forward to tell the backs to stop kicking the fucking thing away though - which would arguably be more important than any actual physical contribution. -
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
Think the CT/ST split works well but Coles has looked sharp and up for it. Good to have some competition for the slot.
As an aside, Sami T seems to have gone backwards in the last year. Was outstanding at lineout throwing but has had wobbles recently and does he look just a bit less mobile than last year?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
Think the CT/ST split works well but Coles has looked sharp and up for it. Good to have some competition for the slot.
As an aside, Sami T seems to have gone backwards in the last year. Was outstanding at lineout throwing but has had wobbles recently and does he look just a bit less mobile than last year?
Yeah, seems to be lacking the power he had, and his throwing is more of a lottery.
I'm serious about Coles.
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
I have been one of the bigger ALB fans on this board, but he's evolved in to Aaron Mauger, good in theory, not in practice
He looks cooked doesn't he?
I'm still surprised he hasn't taken the NH megabucks considering the way he's been mucked about with over the years by the selectors.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
I have been one of the bigger ALB fans on this board, but he's evolved in to Aaron Mauger, good in theory, not in practice
He looks cooked doesn't he?
more cooked than Goodhue
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@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Wondering if that's all.
Taniela Topou was from Auckland wasn't he?
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@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Wondering if that's all.
Taniela Topou was from Auckland wasn't he?
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@akan004 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ploughboy said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Unpopular opinion:
Dane Coles is our best hooker right now. Discuss.
i was thinking during the game that was a impressive shift. if only we had that depth in all postions
I saw this on twitter. It's scary when you see all the names listed down. We have so much top class talent playing overseas.
https://twitter.com/stuck_toilet/status/1702914623035580417?t=sX55jbyTbTANqFqGOodD1w&s=19
Wondering if that's all.
Taniela Topou was from Auckland wasn't he?
Went to Sacred Heart College but born in
MidgardTonga. -
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Been reported that Luke Pearce and a couple of players were almost physically sick when they saw the injury, it was that bad.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@mikedogz said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Broken leg and dislocated ankle
Poor bastard
Been there done that. 0 stars don't recommend.
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@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
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@hydro11 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Kirwan said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
Seriously guys, that was a clear red card.
Why doesn't the tackle provide mitigation?
Illegal tackle technique trumps it
A good lawyer can make that tackle technique view inadmissible.
His left arm wrapped and his right arm couldn’t, due to tackled player being tackled by another AB, meaning he was falling far quicker into poor unsuspecting Ethan De Groot which meant he couldn’t wrap his right arm in time.
Justice for De Groot!!
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@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
As ever, when our forwards act like AB forwards and win clean quick ball, the gameplan looks great.
Unfortunately we can’t rely on our forwards to do that against the top sides.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
As ever, when our forwards act like AB forwards and win clean quick ball, the gameplan looks great.
Unfortunately we can’t rely on our forwards to do that against the top sides.
@DaGrubster said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
As ever, when our forwards act like AB forwards and win clean quick ball, the gameplan looks great.
Unfortunately we can’t rely on our forwards to do that against the top sides.
I feeling a little uneasy with Sam W's game at moment, he looking a little tired or something. Might be my imagination. But we certainly missing some grunt on the cart etc anyway, to be honest apart from Frizzel at times, I don't recall really seeing to much hard close in carrying from a loosie in NZ for quite sometime at any level. And I will add in Papali'i we don't have a 7 that makes hard tackles that seems to get teams going forward?
I was and still am quite keen on Ryan as forwards coach, but had hoped he would maybe have got them playing a bit more physical?
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@DaGrubster said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@frugby said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
@Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:
If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.
Would Roigard start over that player
Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.
One could argue that gameplan has shown to have a few flaws and that we need some variation from halfback….
As ever, when our forwards act like AB forwards and win clean quick ball, the gameplan looks great.
Unfortunately we can’t rely on our forwards to do that against the top sides.
I feeling a little uneasy with Sam W's game at moment, he looking a little tired or something. Might be my imagination. But we certainly missing some grunt on the cart etc anyway, to be honest apart from Frizzel at times, I don't recall really seeing to much hard close in carrying from a loosie in NZ for quite sometime at any level. And I will add in Papali'i we don't have a 7 that makes hard tackles that seems to get teams going forward?
I was and still am quite keen on Ryan as forwards coach, but had hoped he would maybe have got them playing a bit more physical?
Just random thoughts while watching Ireland/Tonga.@Dan54 I agree. You have to think how much does a WC in 2023 mean for some of these older guys, who have already been there and won a WC. Mentioned in the ABs v France thread how both locks look spent, but who the hell would we replace either of them with?
