Things that annoy you about rugby...
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In fact there was an example of that in Oz Scotland match. Scottie grabbed it and ref said something like, 'That was OK, ball was out'.
@pakman said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
In fact there was an example of that in Oz Scotland match. Scottie grabbed it and ref said something like, 'That was OK, ball was out'.
the frustrating thing is that sometimes you cop a YC for cynical, when it is a bit of timing. Usually for slow ball, too.
Yes, I'm still pissed about Isaac Ross getting done in SA a few years ago. Not sure why it sticks, but I thought it was pretty harsh. Must have been 2009... and google confirms my biases/privilege/memory:
http://www.rugbydump.com/2009/08/1028/the-isaac-ross-yellow-card-against-the-springboks
that still looks harsh to me
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@mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet
Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.
Or simply ref to the law. If a tackle has been made and your knee hits the ground it shouldn't mean you can get up and have another go. Most of these 'not held' calls are bullshit and you can see a clear moment when tackler is in contact with ball carrier and ball carrier is in contact with the ground off his feet.
@crucial said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@mooshld said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@rebound said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
Players being allowed to roll when on the ground, preventing the player on his feet from playing the ball. Should be a penalty like it always used to be. but now you can roll, crawl and whatever you please and its play on. Here I thought rugby is a game played on your feet
Hate this so much along with this "not held" rubbish. If you're tackled and not held you should still have to release the ball before you get to your feet to continue. It would make it so much easier to ref. Its a no brainer.
Or simply ref to the law. If a tackle has been made and your knee hits the ground it shouldn't mean you can get up and have another go. Most of these 'not held' calls are bullshit and you can see a clear moment when tackler is in contact with ball carrier and ball carrier is in contact with the ground off his feet.
Did and Irishman come up with this ‘not held’ interpretation?
If you hold onto the bugger you’ll get penalised, but if you don’t hold him he’s allowed to play on...
You’re fooked either way!
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@pakman said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
In fact there was an example of that in Oz Scotland match. Scottie grabbed it and ref said something like, 'That was OK, ball was out'.
the frustrating thing is that sometimes you cop a YC for cynical, when it is a bit of timing. Usually for slow ball, too.
Yes, I'm still pissed about Isaac Ross getting done in SA a few years ago. Not sure why it sticks, but I thought it was pretty harsh. Must have been 2009... and google confirms my biases/privilege/memory:
http://www.rugbydump.com/2009/08/1028/the-isaac-ross-yellow-card-against-the-springboks
that still looks harsh to me
@nzzp said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@pakman said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
In fact there was an example of that in Oz Scotland match. Scottie grabbed it and ref said something like, 'That was OK, ball was out'.
the frustrating thing is that sometimes you cop a YC for cynical, when it is a bit of timing. Usually for slow ball, too.
Yes, I'm still pissed about Isaac Ross getting done in SA a few years ago. Not sure why it sticks, but I thought it was pretty harsh. Must have been 2009... and google confirms my biases/privilege/memory:
http://www.rugbydump.com/2009/08/1028/the-isaac-ross-yellow-card-against-the-springboks
that still looks harsh to me
Agree. So'oialo was calling to Ross that ball was out. I don't think it was even penalty, but certainly not YC. Strong Bok pack that day.
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Things that annoy you about rugby?
The death of rucking...and therefore a lack of this..
https://www.facebook.com/oldnpcrugby/videos/1667718543260714/
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How far refs (and TMOs) will go to not call something a knock-on in a try scoring movement. It's like you need to knock it 20m forwards with 3 hands wearing oversized comedy gloves for then to actually make a call.
Also. I hate the "went straight down" rule (if it is a rule?).
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Things that annoy you about rugby?
The death of rucking...and therefore a lack of this..
https://www.facebook.com/oldnpcrugby/videos/1667718543260714/
Great clip. Not to many people keen to lie around the back of those rucks. Man I miss rugby in the old days. At school in the sheds after a game we wore the stripes from rucking like a badge of fucking honor! If you didn't get tagged you probably didn't play.
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How far refs (and TMOs) will go to not call something a knock-on in a try scoring movement. It's like you need to knock it 20m forwards with 3 hands wearing oversized comedy gloves for then to actually make a call.
Also. I hate the "went straight down" rule (if it is a rule?).
@rapido said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
How far refs (and TMOs) will go to not call something a knock-on in a try scoring movement. It's like you need to knock it 20m forwards with 3 hands wearing oversized comedy gloves for then to actually make a call.
Also. I hate the "went straight down" rule (if it is a rule?).
Not a rule, just an explanation to the arm flappers.
I always think knock ons should be clear and obvious unlike the league interpretation where any loss of control is deemed a knock on.
In Union the ball must travel toward the opposition try line for it to be a KO. Leaving the ball behind you is not a KO
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Just watching Cheetahs v Munster. I know most halfbacks do it, but I don't recall any doing it quite to the degree Murray does.. Why is he allowed to roll the ball half a metre out of the breakdown and still have it protected? Ref's calling "use it" as though the ball is available from the breakdown, when in reality it's a long way out and should be free for all.
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Just watching Cheetahs v Munster. I know most halfbacks do it, but I don't recall any doing it quite to the degree Murray does.. Why is he allowed to roll the ball half a metre out of the breakdown and still have it protected? Ref's calling "use it" as though the ball is available from the breakdown, when in reality it's a long way out and should be free for all.
@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
Just watching Cheetahs v Munster. I know most halfbacks do it, but I don't recall any doing it quite to the degree Murray does.. Why is he allowed to roll the ball half a metre out of the breakdown and still have it protected? Ref's calling "use it" as though the ball is available from the breakdown, when in reality it's a long way out and should be free for all.
I think we discussed this when the Lions were here.
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@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
Just watching Cheetahs v Munster. I know most halfbacks do it, but I don't recall any doing it quite to the degree Murray does.. Why is he allowed to roll the ball half a metre out of the breakdown and still have it protected? Ref's calling "use it" as though the ball is available from the breakdown, when in reality it's a long way out and should be free for all.
I think we discussed this when the Lions were here.
@nepia a little bit...
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Things that annoy you about rugby?
The death of rucking...and therefore a lack of this..
https://www.facebook.com/oldnpcrugby/videos/1667718543260714/
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@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
Just watching Cheetahs v Munster. I know most halfbacks do it, but I don't recall any doing it quite to the degree Murray does.. Why is he allowed to roll the ball half a metre out of the breakdown and still have it protected? Ref's calling "use it" as though the ball is available from the breakdown, when in reality it's a long way out and should be free for all.
I think we discussed this when the Lions were here.
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Late to party but I wish 15s was ref'd like the 7s, with all the ball chucking and pretending that you thought the penalty went your way etc. 7s refs smash down on that, the game is faster and that is better to watch, more respectful and also good for Kiwi teams
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@bones was a number of occasions in the Blues game, when the ball was clearly out, even by todays standards, Ruru had hands on, roll it back a foot then kick/pass...that area is a joke at present.
@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
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@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
@bones tbh its only cos shes a bit of an inside day here I watched the Blues, only usually watch derby matches or other NZ sides in the 1930 slot, next to no NH rugby watching going on for me...but is an issue
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At some point a captain should just say no
No no no, stop the game, this is horseshit.And then point out to the ref that the ruck is on the halfway, and hence there is no way the ball on the 10m can not be out.
I know that we are basically the pioneers of pushing the boundaries, but the game is entering joke status.
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@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
Murray completely takes the piss with that. Frustrating to watch.
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@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
Murray completely takes the piss with that. Frustrating to watch.
@no-quarter said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@bones said in Things that annoy you about rugby...:
@taniwharugby see I didn't notice it that much, it was just watching Murray do it last night I thought he was going to get smoked the first time I saw him do it as it was so far out of the breakdown, like a metre. Then the ref says it's still in. It was like Murray was making a parody of it at first. Nothing in the blues game came close that I saw.
Murray completely takes the piss with that. Frustrating to watch.
Plays the game to the letter of the law. If that's hwo it'll be refereed, play that way - that will drive change more than whinging
