ABs v Scotland
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Hhmmm, doesn't sound like a game worth watching...
Hope we up our game next week, hate to lose to Gatlands team.
While we are still missing a raft of frontline players, just basics like catching and passing seem to be a stretch at present and have done all year.
@taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:
While we are still missing a raft of frontline players, just basics like catching and passing seem to be a stretch at present and have done all year
The problem in a nutshell - and not taking anything away from the Jocks performance. Seems to be a major problem when we think we are going to win easily - eg. Zinzan's "show no mercy" BS.
Hansen looked pissed-off at the post match interview. Have a feeling they might be expected to sharpen up before the Taffs.
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Plantar fasciitis can be very, very painful. I can speak from experience; it can make walking very difficult. Good that PT has been found not guilt of foul play, so we at least still have 3 real locks in the squad.
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Plantar fasciitis can be very, very painful. I can speak from experience; it can make walking very difficult. Good that PT has been found not guilt of foul play, so we at least still have 3 real locks in the squad.
@stargazer I've been pretty lucky, my PF doesnt affect me at all.
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Very brave performance from the Scots. They're not easybeats any more.
As for the abs. I really farking hope they are holding something back because the tactics and moves are absolutely dire. This flat bullshit in the back line is killing their ability to create anything. People here get down on BB or Lima, but wtf is any 10 supposed to do when they have zero space and time?
But as has been mentioned above, the handling and execution this year across the entire team has been very very ordinary. As has the discipline. So many completely unnecessary penalties.
Not been a vintage year by any means.
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@stargazer I've been pretty lucky, my PF doesnt affect me at all.
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@donsteppa said in ABs v Scotland:
With Australia and South Africa doing so well on this end of year tour, and us just holding on to beat the Scots, I’m still of the view that Hansen and Foster aren’t half as clever as they think they are this year...
Or maybe our resident Scottish Kiwi is right, and they really should have had more players in the Lions...
None of them demanded selection in all honesty except Hogg.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that, having watched Scotland's backrow outplay Wales' and imo, get the better of Ireland's, I think Barclay and Watson, possibly Hardie too, were unlucky to not tour. Nel was injured of course or he would have probably been the starting tighthead. Gatland went with what he knew, and I can see the point in that, but there was some politics involved in it all - Townsend turned down a coaching role and there looked to be a bit of a pouted lip from Gats over that.
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@taniwharugby Lucky indeed. Or I was unlucky, I don't know. I was limping (due to pain and swelling) for at least two months. Ruined a holiday.
@stargazer said in ABs v Scotland:
@taniwharugby Lucky indeed. Or I was unlucky, I don't know. I was limping (due to pain and swelling) for at least two months. Ruined a holiday.
I've had it for 5 years, for a while in both feet. So you weren't that unlucky.
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mine is just in my right foot, doesnt affect anything so I havent required surgery (first diagnosed in about 2002)
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I haven’t read any of the thread since last night, so apologies for covering any topics that have already been discussed.
Firstly well done to Scotland in bringing it to the ABs, they played positive attacking rugby and it nearly paid off.
However their ball handling skills were lacking when it counted and that was their undoing.The ABs, well well well, it feels like Groundhog Day AGAIN.
Dropped balls, forward passes, poor decision making, poor discipline.
BB, why the flipping hell is receiving the ball standing so flat footed and deep? Understand it may be a tactic to avoid the rush defence teams are implementing against us, but come on mate you can’t sit back all the time it’s putting to much pressure on the centres.
We kicked the ball away at stupid times, like when we’ve got good front foot ball, not only that often the kick was really poor - straight to where Hogg was waiting to gobble it up.
We appear to be lacking leadership at times when we are under pressure, a little bit understandable when you consider who we are missing and hopefully a really big learning curve for these guys.
Another really frustrating performance and I for one can’t wait for the season to finish.
Roll on 2018 so we can get some of our top team back on the field. -
I haven’t read any of the thread since last night, so apologies for covering any topics that have already been discussed.
Firstly well done to Scotland in bringing it to the ABs, they played positive attacking rugby and it nearly paid off.
However their ball handling skills were lacking when it counted and that was their undoing.The ABs, well well well, it feels like Groundhog Day AGAIN.
Dropped balls, forward passes, poor decision making, poor discipline.
BB, why the flipping hell is receiving the ball standing so flat footed and deep? Understand it may be a tactic to avoid the rush defence teams are implementing against us, but come on mate you can’t sit back all the time it’s putting to much pressure on the centres.
We kicked the ball away at stupid times, like when we’ve got good front foot ball, not only that often the kick was really poor - straight to where Hogg was waiting to gobble it up.
We appear to be lacking leadership at times when we are under pressure, a little bit understandable when you consider who we are missing and hopefully a really big learning curve for these guys.
Another really frustrating performance and I for one can’t wait for the season to finish.
Roll on 2018 so we can get some of our top team back on the field.@gunner said in ABs v Scotland:
I haven’t read any of the thread since last night, so apologies for covering any topics that have already been discussed.
Firstly well done to Scotland in bringing it to the ABs, they played positive attacking rugby and it nearly paid off.
However their ball handling skills were lacking when it counted and that was their undoing.The ABs, well well well, it feels like Groundhog Day AGAIN.
Dropped balls, forward passes, poor decision making, poor discipline.
BB, why the flipping hell is receiving the ball standing so flat footed and deep? Understand it may be a tactic to avoid the rush defence teams are implementing against us, but come on mate you can’t sit back all the time it’s putting to much pressure on the centres.
We kicked the ball away at stupid times, like when we’ve got good front foot ball, not only that often the kick was really poor - straight to where Hogg was waiting to gobble it up.
We appear to be lacking leadership at times when we are under pressure, a little bit understandable when you consider who we are missing and hopefully a really big learning curve for these guys.
Another really frustrating performance and I for one can’t wait for the season to finish.
Roll on 2018 so we can get some of our top team back on the field.If you want to blame someone, blame the coaches. Neither BB nor Lima play like that normally. They're doing what they're told to do and it's wrecking their natural games. If those are going to be the tactics from now on (God forbid) then put BB somewhere else and chuck a battering ram at 10. It's so incredibly frustrating other teams using space and getting it wide, while the only AB back move seems to be a centre hitting it up.
Like I said, I hope to christ this is just building up to something better because there is no way they can continue like this.
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Apart from the first half against France, this has been a pretty rubbish NH tour by AB standards.
Please God don't let us play like shit against Wales in Wales. Even the thought of Gatland getting a victory makes me want to puke.
@mokey said in ABs v Scotland:
Apart from the first half against France, this has been a pretty rubbish NH tour by AB standards.
Well, very recent standards maybe.
We've not lost yet, and I've seen a few losses on NH tours in my time. Um, like last year.
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ignoring how we have played on the field, been a rubbish year by AB standards, 2 losses and a draw...
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@rocky-rockbottom so it's a blessing for rugby too?
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Yeah, ABs did kinda suck, and the home team was singing, but at the end o' the day, log another W.
That makes 31 contests against Scots in 112 years, updated record stands at 29 W 0 L 2 D -
I'm not sure I'd agree with that, having watched Scotland's backrow outplay Wales' and imo, get the better of Ireland's, I think Barclay and Watson, possibly Hardie too, were unlucky to not tour. Nel was injured of course or he would have probably been the starting tighthead. Gatland went with what he knew, and I can see the point in that, but there was some politics involved in it all - Townsend turned down a coaching role and there looked to be a bit of a pouted lip from Gats over that.
@talisker said in ABs v Scotland:
I'm not sure I'd agree with that, having watched Scotland's backrow outplay Wales' and imo, get the better of Ireland's, I think Barclay and Watson, possibly Hardie too, were unlucky to not tour. Nel was injured of course or he would have probably been the starting tighthead. Gatland went with what he knew, and I can see the point in that, but there was some politics involved in it all - Townsend turned down a coaching role and there looked to be a bit of a pouted lip from Gats over that.
I think they were all 50/50 to be honest and unfortunately Wazza went for the guys he knew. There are some seriously butthurt Scots on another forum I jump on who spout all sorts of shit and say he's ruined the jersey etc but 1-1 in NZ is a great effort. Add the Grays as guys who might be considered slightly unlucky but again, the one genuine shoe in got picked but injured early on.
Seymour should have at least made the bench in the test series.
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@rocky-rockbottom Oh Steve. That is about the stupidest excuse for a poor performance ever. Unless of course Read chimed in with 'but our team culture off the field is the greatest.'
@mokey I don't think he was using it as an excuse. He has a point, there was a growing chorus of people in NZ saying they were bored with AB dominance (some on here may have even said similar things). Now peole are starting to whinge about close AB wins.
