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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    @crucial everything you say is true, but none of it applies to that particular situation - he should have stayed out, the inside man was covered and he created them an overlap and hence a try. As I said previously I think a lot of the criticism is rubbish, but not that one.

    Disagree.
    You say 'should have' and that is analysis based on outcome rather than situation.
    IMO there was a higher chance of the pass being disrupted and a turnover created than an overlap being used.
    Argies pushed the pass and it worked out for them.
    There is a big assumption from those criticising NMS' decision that he would have been able to tackle the opposite winger who would have taken the ball at speed and, as he showed, is evasive and strong. He made two other ABs look like complete numpties on his way to the line. It could have been three.

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    @crucial Could not disagree more. That was an awful piece of defending by NMS that a schoolboy coach would be livid with. The inside player was covered. You don't rush up and double team the ball carrier - that is some weird winger defending that you see in league a lot. You stay out on your man and use the sideline as your friend in defending and trust your inside defense (when it was 2 on 2 as it was). You don't create an overlap by coming in to tackle a guy that already has a defender on him.

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      #597

      It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

      Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
      If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
      http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

      I'll stick to the ones I know.
      LHP: Paz
      THP: Figallo & Herrera
      Lock: Galarza
      No 8: Isa
      Centre: Socino
      Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

      There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

        Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
        If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
        http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

        I'll stick to the ones I know.
        LHP: Paz
        THP: Figallo & Herrera
        Lock: Galarza
        No 8: Isa
        Centre: Socino
        Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

        There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

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        @rapido That's a great list, good find, thanks!

        Facundo Isa is my absolute favourite of their exiles. Would be huge if they can select him.

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        • RapidoR Rapido

          It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

          Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
          If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
          http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

          I'll stick to the ones I know.
          LHP: Paz
          THP: Figallo & Herrera
          Lock: Galarza
          No 8: Isa
          Centre: Socino
          Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

          There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

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          @rapido nice. I think when they imposed that "ban" the player they missed most was Bosch, but looks like he's getting on a bit now. Very classy centre.

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            Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

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            • BonesB Bones

              Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

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              @bones And to think they ban trolls.

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              • BonesB Bones

                Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

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                @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

                That’s a joke

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

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                  @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

                  Jesus Christ. I'd pick Owen Frank's at 14 before him.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

                    Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
                    If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
                    http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

                    I'll stick to the ones I know.
                    LHP: Paz
                    THP: Figallo & Herrera
                    Lock: Galarza
                    No 8: Isa
                    Centre: Socino
                    Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

                    There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

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                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

                    Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
                    If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
                    http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

                    I'll stick to the ones I know.
                    LHP: Paz
                    THP: Figallo & Herrera
                    Lock: Galarza
                    No 8: Isa
                    Centre: Socino
                    Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

                    There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

                    @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.

                    Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
                    If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
                    http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/

                    I'll stick to the ones I know.
                    LHP: Paz
                    THP: Figallo & Herrera
                    Lock: Galarza
                    No 8: Isa
                    Centre: Socino
                    Wing: Imhoff, Cordero

                    There are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.

                    Figallo is their best TH, then Herrera. Both world class. Massive gap to next ones (who specialise at getting airbourne against ABs!).

                    At LH, Roncero was superb, then Ayerza also first rate before retiring a couple of years ago. Since then, nothing. Don't know Paz.

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                      Argies being plundered for its props: https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/12/20/another-prop-departs-argentina-gigena-joins-leicester/

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                        #606

                        Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                        Sometimes YouTube provides

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                          finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?

                          Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.

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                            Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                            Sometimes YouTube provides

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                            @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                            Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                            Sometimes YouTube provides

                            Do you have any experience downloading linux distros?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

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                              @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              Planet Crucial Rugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.

                              I saw another site had NMS in thier team too, might have been espn rugby?

                              Surely we arent just being overly picky?

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                Sometimes YouTube provides

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                                @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                Sometimes YouTube provides

                                Had a look last night- unusually hard to find one online. COuldn't see it easily.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?

                                  Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?

                                  Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.

                                  Remember last year when he got that intercept that 99% of test wingers would have easily turned into a try at the other end? It was embarrassing how easily he was mown down.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                    Sometimes YouTube provides

                                    Do you have any experience downloading linux distros?

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                                    @antipodean thanks mate, but a big whoosh right over my head. Brain could only come up with "that friend of Charlie Brown?" 😁

                                    All good, as ever the thread commentary has painted a satisfactory picture

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                                    • SiamS Siam

                                      Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                      Sometimes YouTube provides

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                                      @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                      Sometimes YouTube provides

                                      I have a halal version if that is ok?

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                                        @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                        Sometimes YouTube provides

                                        I have a halal version if that is ok?

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                                        @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?

                                        Sometimes YouTube provides

                                        I have a halal version if that is ok?

                                        Halal no?!

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