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All Blacks vs Pumas I

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @african-monkey said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

    @chimoaus Ennor but he's always injured anyway.

    Just play him at wing so we can fuck off bridge.

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    @kirwan Oh come on now, did you see that try Caleb Ralph nearly scored in the corner? An amazing effort!

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    • chimoausC chimoaus

      Are Ofa and Finlay there also?

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      @chimoaus Think Ofa Tuunugasi is supposed to be available for the next game. Think Christie is touring too. Not sure when available.

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      • TimT Tim

        @chimoaus Think Ofa Tuunugasi is supposed to be available for the next game. Think Christie is touring too. Not sure when available.

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        @tim said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

        @chimoaus Think Ofa Tuunugasi is supposed to be available for the next game. Think Christie is touring too. Not sure when available.

        I thought Ofa was 1st Boks test.

        Was great to see Moody back out there. Give him the start next week.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Good stuff. Hats off to Foster and the coaches.

          Lots of positives. BB and Brodie are back. Jacobson making strides forward. Defence a lot better.

          But Bridge is a long way off Test level on the Wing.

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          @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

          Good stuff. Hats off to Foster and the coaches.

          Lots of positives. BB and Brodie are back. Jacobson making strides forward. Defence a lot better.

          But Bridge is a long way off Test level on the Wing.

          You’re saying this like it’s some startling revelation.

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            So next week we might see, Patty T, Ennor, Sotutu, Ofa and Finlay and De Groot.

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              De Groot ? But is he a full squad member ?

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              • C cgrant

                De Groot ? But is he a full squad member ?

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                @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                De Groot ? But is he a full squad member ?

                Added, yes he is there.

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                  Quick thoughts.

                  5 penalties for Laulala was it...or more? I saw at least 3 missed tackles also. Great he's got more dynamic but it seems to be a negative in this case. Lomax a huge improvement around the field, not sure on his scrum work.

                  Much better passing from Weber this week.

                  Solid shoulder from Tupaea on defence surprised me, good to see.

                  Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                  "Pass it to Rieko" isn't a game plan I want us to focus on, but it was the only one working for the first 50 or so minutes.

                  Not convinced on Va'ai, just seems a pretty ordinary presence on the field.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                    Good stuff. Hats off to Foster and the coaches.

                    Lots of positives. BB and Brodie are back. Jacobson making strides forward. Defence a lot better.

                    But Bridge is a long way off Test level on the Wing.

                    You’re saying this like it’s some startling revelation.

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                    @mn5 Not really. Just trying to think of negatives after a very good test performance.

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                      I think the forwards in general were very good, only the scum penalties and a couple lineouts being workons. I think it's the offensive defence which is improved on last year. We have some really big units out there from 1-8 and I think it shows. The big carries from both hookers tonight shows that a big powerful hooker is an advantage.

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        I want to like Bridge, sensible player, good work rate, just not what you need from a winger in terms of power, pace or evasiveness.

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                        I want to like Bridge, sensible player, good work rate, just not what you need from a winger in terms of power, pace or evasiveness.

                        Sometimes that’s exactly what you want. Today he added a lot to our continuity. He received the ball on the touch line, with tacklers in front of him, made sure he didn’t go out and clean ball was set for next phase. He was direct and strong in everything he did. Part of a patient attack. Accuracy at test level is much underrated. But agreed he is not your power winger. Reiko, Reece, Jordon all ahead of him.

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                          All in all a good performance.

                          Great shifts from Aumua, Ioane & Ioane, Jacobson, Rettalick, Papali’i, Perenara and the Barrett’s. Samisoni was strong off the bench aswell.

                          Creating some superb depth atm.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            All in all a good performance.

                            Great shifts from Aumua, Ioane & Ioane, Jacobson, Rettalick, Papali’i, Perenara and the Barrett’s. Samisoni was strong off the bench aswell.

                            Creating some superb depth atm.

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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                            All in all a good performance.

                            Great shifts from Aumua, Ioane & Ioane, Jacobson, Rettalick, Papali’i, Perenara and the Barrett’s. Samisoni was strong off the bench aswell.

                            Creating some superb depth atm.

                            Can't help but feel the forwards as a unit are a step ahead of the backs. Guess it's better then the other way around.

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                              I want to like Bridge, sensible player, good work rate, just not what you need from a winger in terms of power, pace or evasiveness.

                              Sometimes that’s exactly what you want. Today he added a lot to our continuity. He received the ball on the touch line, with tacklers in front of him, made sure he didn’t go out and clean ball was set for next phase. He was direct and strong in everything he did. Part of a patient attack. Accuracy at test level is much underrated. But agreed he is not your power winger. Reiko, Reece, Jordon all ahead of him.

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                              @kev said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                              Today he added a lot to our continuity

                              You could easily argue the opposite. The phase died every time he touched the ball, apart from the time he kicked it away and the time he knocked it on. I don't recall seeing him do anything else other than tuck, but I can't see how he's doing that 100% of the time unless he's been instructed to. There were definitely times where linking would have been the better option though.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                Quick thoughts.

                                5 penalties for Laulala was it...or more? I saw at least 3 missed tackles also. Great he's got more dynamic but it seems to be a negative in this case. Lomax a huge improvement around the field, not sure on his scrum work.

                                Much better passing from Weber this week.

                                Solid shoulder from Tupaea on defence surprised me, good to see.

                                Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                "Pass it to Rieko" isn't a game plan I want us to focus on, but it was the only one working for the first 50 or so minutes.

                                Not convinced on Va'ai, just seems a pretty ordinary presence on the field.

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                                @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                  Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                  He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

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                                  @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                  @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                  Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                  He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

                                  Like kev said, I guess the team at least know what's going to happen when he gets the ball and can set accordingly? He typically doesn't turn it over either.

                                  It gets fucking frustrating to see so many opportunities scorned though.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                    Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                    He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

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                                    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                    Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                    He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

                                    Creates ample discussion for the Fern. Foster has you all covered...

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                      @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                      Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                      He obviously offers something that Foster & co see and we don't, but I'm buggered if I can spot it

                                      Like kev said, I guess the team at least know what's going to happen when he gets the ball and can set accordingly? He typically doesn't turn it over either.

                                      It gets fucking frustrating to see so many opportunities scorned though.

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                      the team at least know what's going to happen when he gets the ball and can set accordingly

                                      The only problem with this theory is that is the opposition can too

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        All in all a good performance.

                                        Great shifts from Aumua, Ioane & Ioane, Jacobson, Rettalick, Papali’i, Perenara and the Barrett’s. Samisoni was strong off the bench aswell.

                                        Creating some superb depth atm.

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                                        @canes4life said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                        All in all a good performance.

                                        Great shifts from Aumua, Ioane & Ioane, Jacobson, Rettalick, Papali’i, Perenara and the Barrett’s. Samisoni was strong off the bench aswell.

                                        Creating some superb depth atm.

                                        Couldn't agree more. I enjoyed that, not a perfect performance (what test is) but one that had plenty of positives. Anything that creates a bit more depth is good, and didn't see any poor performances.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          Quick thoughts.

                                          5 penalties for Laulala was it...or more? I saw at least 3 missed tackles also. Great he's got more dynamic but it seems to be a negative in this case. Lomax a huge improvement around the field, not sure on his scrum work.

                                          Much better passing from Weber this week.

                                          Solid shoulder from Tupaea on defence surprised me, good to see.

                                          Bridge has got to be under clear instruction - apart from the grubber ahead, was there a carry where he didn't just tuck and go for the nearest tackler?

                                          "Pass it to Rieko" isn't a game plan I want us to focus on, but it was the only one working for the first 50 or so minutes.

                                          Not convinced on Va'ai, just seems a pretty ordinary presence on the field.

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                                          @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):

                                          Not convinced on Va'ai, just seems a pretty ordinary presence on the field.

                                          Agreed.
                                          We're in trouble if we lose either Retallick or Barrett.

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