All Blacks vs Pumas I
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Yeah Vai’i and DMac really were not much impact off the bench. I’d rate them lowest of all the 23, with Nepo gaining the third ‘bottom 3’ spot due to his FOUR penalties given.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Yeah Vai’i and DMac really were not much impact off the bench. I’d rate them lowest of all the 23, with Nepo gaining the third ‘bottom 3’ spot due to his FOUR penalties given.
Wasn't it five?
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Yeah Vai’i and DMac really were not much impact off the bench. I’d rate them lowest of all the 23, with Nepo gaining the third ‘bottom 3’ spot due to his FOUR penalties given.
@machpants oh crap was it 4? That must be going for some form of recent AB record...edit: 5?!!
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@machpants oh crap was it 4? That must be going for some form of recent AB record...edit: 5?!!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants oh crap was it 4? That must be going for some form of recent AB record...edit: 5?!!
ESPN had 4, could've been more
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@NTA @Machpants hopefully with Hansen gone, the powder isn't labelled "drop the best defender for an extra lineout option and then lose lineouts"
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@NTA @Machpants hopefully with Hansen gone, the powder isn't labelled "drop the best defender for an extra lineout option and then lose lineouts"
Code name ‘cunning plan’.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants oh crap was it 4? That must be going for some form of recent AB record...edit: 5?!!
ESPN had 4, could've been more
@machpants think there were at least 2 scrum pens, an offside or two and something else? With potential for more offsides...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
I just recall having a mini heart attack every time Kolbe got the ball. Absolute freak. I hope he plays next week. COVID permitting I might get to see him live.
Considering he can play left or right wing or fullback (or 9?) we'll have to have our best winger for pace and power to match up to him.
Hope George is ready.@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Hope George is ready.
I google George Bridge Highlights. This was the first hit on Google. 15 tries, take a look ... of them, I reckon he had to actually 'do' something in 3-4 or so; the rest were catch and run straight. Someone should do a summary if they're bored... but it supports the narrative of a solid but unspectacular winger
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Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
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Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
Like Mealamu in 2015? Nah, if you’re good enough you’re not too old.
About Bridge, he wasn’t pointed out as crap. Just having been totally nothing as a winger. ABs wingers are X factor awesome, or amazing 2nd fullbacks (more recently) Bridge is meh. He is fine, but there are better options to go for long term. Everything about him says Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
Like Mealamu in 2015? Nah, if you’re good enough you’re not too old.
About Bridge, he wasn’t pointed out as crap. Just having been totally nothing as a winger. ABs wingers are X factor awesome, or amazing 2nd fullbacks (more recently) Bridge is meh. He is fine, but there are better options to go for long term. Everything about him says Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
As I said in my post about his tries for teh Crusaders, solid but unspectacular
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
Like Mealamu in 2015? Nah, if you’re good enough you’re not too old.
About Bridge, he wasn’t pointed out as crap. Just having been totally nothing as a winger. ABs wingers are X factor awesome, or amazing 2nd fullbacks (more recently) Bridge is meh. He is fine, but there are better options to go for long term. Everything about him says Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
@machpants Bridge made Planet Rugby's team of the week. The other teams left wingers must have been be good this week! -
11 George Bridge (New Zealand): The All Black wing spots are in rude health at the moment but Crusaders finisher Bridge is never too far away from being in pole position for the number 11 shirt. A hard-working, quick, skillful and deceptively powerful player, he was his usual busy self on Sunday as he made his team’s second most metres (114). All he can do when given starts is keep producing performance like this and he rarely dips in form. A quality wing. -
@machpants Bridge made Planet Rugby's team of the week. The other teams left wingers must have been be good this week! -
11 George Bridge (New Zealand): The All Black wing spots are in rude health at the moment but Crusaders finisher Bridge is never too far away from being in pole position for the number 11 shirt. A hard-working, quick, skillful and deceptively powerful player, he was his usual busy self on Sunday as he made his team’s second most metres (114). All he can do when given starts is keep producing performance like this and he rarely dips in form. A quality wing.@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants Bridge made Planet Rugby's team of the week. The other teams left wingers must have been be good this week! -
11 George Bridge (New Zealand): The All Black wing spots are in rude health at the moment but Crusaders finisher Bridge is never too far away from being in pole position for the number 11 shirt. A hard-working, quick, skillful and deceptively powerful player, he was his usual busy self on Sunday as he made his team’s second most metres (114). All he can do when given starts is keep producing performance like this and he rarely dips in form. A quality wing.Planet Rugby? Thanks for proving my point :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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@machpants Bridge made Planet Rugby's team of the week. The other teams left wingers must have been be good this week! -
11 George Bridge (New Zealand): The All Black wing spots are in rude health at the moment but Crusaders finisher Bridge is never too far away from being in pole position for the number 11 shirt. A hard-working, quick, skillful and deceptively powerful player, he was his usual busy self on Sunday as he made his team’s second most metres (114). All he can do when given starts is keep producing performance like this and he rarely dips in form. A quality wing.@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@machpants Bridge made Planet Rugby's team of the week. The other teams left wingers must have been be good this week! -
11 George Bridge (New Zealand): The All Black wing spots are in rude health at the moment but Crusaders finisher Bridge is never too far away from being in pole position for the number 11 shirt. A hard-working, quick, skillful and deceptively powerful player, he was his usual busy self on Sunday as he made his team’s second most metres (114). All he can do when given starts is keep producing performance like this and he rarely dips in form. A quality wing.Someone's discovered sarcasm.
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Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
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Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
He's an enigma wrapped in a mystery is George.
Someone who can make the second most running metres yet fail to beat a defender deserves a position created just for them.
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
Like Mealamu in 2015? Nah, if you’re good enough you’re not too old.
About Bridge, he wasn’t pointed out as crap. Just having been totally nothing as a winger. ABs wingers are X factor awesome, or amazing 2nd fullbacks (more recently) Bridge is meh. He is fine, but there are better options to go for long term. Everything about him says Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Finally got a chance to watch the game. Based on this forum, I was expecting Bridge to have had a 'mare. In fact he was fine, one knock on in the 79 minute excepted. Too many people stroking each other off over bridge "say it louder baby, bridge is hopeless, that's right give me that upvote". Will never be an AB great, but he is hardly in the basket case category either.
ABs are waaaay better this season. Starts with selection, which is much better than last year. Forwards more direct. I think the ABs should ditch Coles who is now 34, 36 in 2023. The 2 hookers both had very solid games. I think the best AB loose trio would be Ioane, Cane and Jacobson, with Savea on the bench. Jacobson is a really class player.
BB, RI and BBBR were probably my 3 top players, but no-one disgraced themselves. There is great depth, if we have a weakness I'd say lock: Barrett is already a step down, I really don't rate PT at international level. The sprinbok and NH tests will be a good litmus test - teams that thrive on 10 man rugby and would be more than happy to claim an AB scalp playing that way.
Like Mealamu in 2015? Nah, if you’re good enough you’re not too old.
About Bridge, he wasn’t pointed out as crap. Just having been totally nothing as a winger. ABs wingers are X factor awesome, or amazing 2nd fullbacks (more recently) Bridge is meh. He is fine, but there are better options to go for long term. Everything about him says Journeyman, break out in case of emergency
I gave you an upvote.
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Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
Seems to be the other way around. Any criticsm of his fuckups and really subpar performances and Crusaders fans come leaping out of the woodwork to defend him.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
Jeez, this anti-Bridge narrative is really out of hand on here. Mere mention of his name and you get:
Seems to be the other way around. Any criticsm of his fuckups and really subpar performances and Crusaders fans come leaping out of the woodwork to defend him.
To be honest, I thought his carrying was really impressive on Sunday. Hence why I will be intrigued to see what else he starts to add to that and if it's part of a programme of progression.
He was hitting bodies pretty fucken hard.
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To be honest, I thought his carrying was really impressive on Sunday. Hence why I will be intrigued to see what else he starts to add to that and if it's part of a programme of progression.
He was hitting bodies pretty fucken hard.
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
To be honest, I thought his carrying was really impressive on Sunday. Hence why I will be intrigued to see what else he starts to add to that and if it's part of a programme of progression.
He was hitting bodies pretty fucken hard.
This, there are without doubt several better options for the 11 jersey...but by god i get tired of hearing about how shit he is
Why the game plan was for him to hit it up like he was built like lomu i'll never know, he gave it a go though, several times
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas I (yay we’re not playing the Aussies again):
To be honest, I thought his carrying was really impressive on Sunday. Hence why I will be intrigued to see what else he starts to add to that and if it's part of a programme of progression.
He was hitting bodies pretty fucken hard.
This, there are without doubt several better options for the 11 jersey...but by god i get tired of hearing about how shit he is
Why the game plan was for him to hit it up like he was built like lomu i'll never know, he gave it a go though, several times
@kiwiwomble his option taking was dire, but if a player is doing one thing time and again, in some cases to the detriment of the team and he isn't under instruction to do just that, then I'm sure he'll get dropped pretty swiftly.
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@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Hope George is ready.
I google George Bridge Highlights. This was the first hit on Google. 15 tries, take a look ... of them, I reckon he had to actually 'do' something in 3-4 or so; the rest were catch and run straight. Someone should do a summary if they're bored... but it supports the narrative of a solid but unspectacular winger
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Hope George is ready.
I google George Bridge Highlights. This was the first hit on Google. 15 tries, take a look ... of them, I reckon he had to actually 'do' something in 3-4 or so; the rest were catch and run straight. Someone should do a summary if they're bored... but it supports the narrative of a solid but unspectacular winger
Wouldn't Jordan's be pretty similar?
