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All Blacks vs Pumas II

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    @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    Hell of an effort from Vaa'i to go 80, but the only time I've "seen" him is when he's dotting down. Struggling with if that's a good thing or not.

    He's not much of a presence eh.

    8 tackles made, none missed

    Third highest run getter of the forwards (39) off 9 runs, with 7 passes as well, and 2 defenders beaten (1 clean break).

    He’s been doing pretty well I thought (without being a BBBR or Whitelock).

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    @gt12 Yeah, I thought he was good tonight.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      Number One in the World!!!!!

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      @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      Number One in the World!!!!!

      Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
      I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

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      • KruseK Kruse

        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        Number One in the World!!!!!

        Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
        I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

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        @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        Number One in the World!!!!!

        Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
        I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

        Yeah, nah

        1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
        2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
        3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
        4 (↓3) England 85.44
        5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

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        • M Machpants

          Bladder missed 5 tackles, against a pretty lame Argentina, despite the sky team bigging him up, he's not a keeper at this level

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          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Bladder missed 5 tackles, against a pretty lame Argentina, despite the sky team bigging him up, he's not a keeper at this level

          Yeah that is really poor. Ended on four penalties too.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Number One in the World!!!!!

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            @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            Number One in the World!!!!!

            WTF was that music from SKY while TJ was just saying that

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            • M Machpants

              @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              Number One in the World!!!!!

              Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
              I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

              Yeah, nah

              1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
              2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
              3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
              4 (↓3) England 85.44
              5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

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              @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              Number One in the World!!!!!

              Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
              I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

              Yeah, nah

              1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
              2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
              3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
              4 (↓3) England 85.44
              5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

              Roll on the 100th game against the Old Foe then.

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              • M Machpants

                @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Number One in the World!!!!!

                Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
                I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

                Yeah, nah

                1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
                2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
                3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
                4 (↓3) England 85.44
                5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

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                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Number One in the World!!!!!

                Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
                I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

                Yeah, nah

                1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
                2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
                3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
                4 (↓3) England 85.44
                5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

                Yeah - exactly. If this was counted as Argies having Home-Advantage - NZ would have had (+0.83) - taking us to #1.

                Edit - and I think everybody is, or should be, happier with counting this as a "No Home Advantage" game.
                The taking of #1 should rightly come down to next weeks game.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @gt12 Yeah, I thought he was good tonight.

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                  @tim said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                  @gt12 Yeah, I thought he was good tonight.

                  I’m not sure he’s an international lock (he looks a lock/6 to me or a Barrett replacement) but he probably outplayed Tuips over the game (Patty started well but went a bit missing).

                  Btw, they’ve updated the stats and apparently Vaa’ii had 10 made, none missed.

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                    Samisoni goes from strength to strength. Good to see Sotutu back and his skill. Jordie surely cements his status as best fullback. DMac played a very good understated role. With more time and confidence he'll be a decent third option. Rieko just looks amazing at centre, getting the ball more often and his pace makes a big difference on attack.

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                      Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

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                      • M Machpants

                        @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        Number One in the World!!!!!

                        Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
                        I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

                        Yeah, nah

                        1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
                        2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
                        3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)
                        4 (↓3) England 85.44
                        5 (↓4) Ireland 84.85

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                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        @kruse said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        Number One in the World!!!!!

                        Only if World Rugby ranking system counts this as having Home Advantage for Argentina.
                        I don't think they will... I think the Aussie commentators, surprisingly, are full of shit.

                        Yeah, nah

                        1 South Africa 90.95 (-1.54)
                        2 New Zealand 90.70 (+0.38)
                        3 (↑5) Australia 85.65 (+1.54)

                        Wrong order but a familiar looking top 3. That metallic sound is Stephen Jones' angry jaw-dropping.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

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                          @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                          Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                          Sure, but I'd prefer big red

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            Not bad with all those changes. Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

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                            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

                            I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

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                              @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                              He might go better at seven, but at 6 he’s behind Akira and Jacobson by a long way.

                              At Seven, a few there too.

                              Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

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                              • M Machpants

                                @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                Sure, but I'd prefer big red

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                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                Sure, but I'd prefer big red

                                I'd like to see big red given a shot too, until tonight I thought he'd likely take Hoskins spot.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                  He might go better at seven, but at 6 he’s behind Akira and Jacobson by a long way.

                                  At Seven, a few there too.

                                  Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

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                                  @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                  He might go better at seven, but at 6 he’s behind Akira and Jacobson by a long way.

                                  At Seven, a few there too.

                                  Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

                                  That's why I said squad option. 😉

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                    Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

                                    I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

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                                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                    Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

                                    I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

                                    Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                      Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                      He might go better at seven, but at 6 he’s behind Akira and Jacobson by a long way.

                                      At Seven, a few there too.

                                      Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

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                                      @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                      Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

                                      Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

                                        I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

                                        Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

                                        I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

                                        Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

                                        Been a great warm up for the boks.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

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                                          @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                          Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                                          Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

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