All Blacks vs Pumas II
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dont think i expect that many changes, individually fine but im expecting some rust, game could be close
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.
Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (131)
17. Ben Franks (46)
18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
19. Victor Vito (32)
20. Sam Cane (30)
21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
22. Beauden Barrett (35)
23. Sonny Bill Williams (32) -
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.
Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (131)
17. Ben Franks (46)
18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
19. Victor Vito (32)
20. Sam Cane (30)
21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
22. Beauden Barrett (35)
23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.
Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (131)
17. Ben Franks (46)
18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
19. Victor Vito (32)
20. Sam Cane (30)
21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
22. Beauden Barrett (35)
23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)Thats some bench.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.
Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (131)
17. Ben Franks (46)
18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
19. Victor Vito (32)
20. Sam Cane (30)
21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
22. Beauden Barrett (35)
23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)Thats some bench.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@hooroo necessary though.
They will have the pressure on to uphold the jersey which is good. Not often the second string get meaningful gamesthat test them.Plus, there are two Barretts, Taylor and Jacobson on the bench if required.
257 Caps on the bench, might be the most experienced bench ever.
Doubt it, 2015 had kevvie on the bench.
Reserves
16. Keven Mealamu (131)
17. Ben Franks (46)
18. Charlie Faumuina (32)
19. Victor Vito (32)
20. Sam Cane (30)
21. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (19)
22. Beauden Barrett (35)
23. Sonny Bill Williams (32)Thats some bench.
Some starting XV, too!
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.
He definitely has a higher ceiling than Angus.
Let's hope Lomax remembers his last start well!
While there might be some flutters over that forward pack, I think as a player when you look around and don't see a lot of experienced guys you feel the responsibility on yourself a lot more and as a result you can often find something extra you might not have found if you were surrounded by vets.
These tests remind me of that 2005 grand slam tour!
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
I think Lomax has overtaken Ta'avao in the pecking order. Good.
I don't see either playing in the next 2 games.
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Aumua has a bruised calf, Akira Ioane and Papalii both have "knocks".
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@darren said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
That looks like the worst tight 5 I have seen us put out in a long time.
I really like the front row.
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2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 1st start
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 2nd start
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 2nd start
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 2nd start
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd start
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 2nd start at 1st 5
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 2nd start
14 Will Jordan (7) - 5th start
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This seems like a make or break test for Hoskins as he appears to have slipped down the pecking order. He’s at best the 3rd 8.
Hopefully he can overcome his second season blues.
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
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@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Welcome back bro.
Big fan of Sotutu, hope he plays well.
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@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Welcome back bro.
Big fan of Sotutu, hope he plays well.
@act-crusader :thumbs_up: Great to be back!
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@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Went off the boil a little. His appearances in the NPC were underwhelming. Has some good skills though so worth keeping in the mix. He'll come right.
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I just bought tickets for the whole fam for this game so I hope we don't get ambushed by the Pumas.
It's a calculated risk by Foster and co. They had to rotate given the Boks next week but they've got some experience on the bench in Taylor, Tu'ungafasi, Barrett they can call upon of the crap hits the fan. I was at the game last year in Sydney and when things became an arm wrestle the bench wasn't able to turn things around so theres that too.
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@Hooroo to your B team comment, this is where I’d have these players with some conjecture over some of the rankings. Incoming
1 Joe Moody (51) - 1st choice LH
2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 3rd/4th choice Hooker (Coles, Taylor, Aumua(?))
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 3rd choice TH (Ofa, Laulala)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38) - 4th choice Lock (Whitelock, Retallick, Barrett)
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 5th choice Lock (as above)
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 3rd choice Blindside (Ioane, Frizell)
7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain - 2nd/3rd choice Openside (Cane, Papali’i(?))
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd choice No. 8 (Savea, Jacobsen)
9 TJ Perenara (72) - 2nd choice HB (Smith)
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 3rd choice 1st 5 (Mo’unga, Barrett)
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 3rd choice 2nd 5 (Havili, Goodhue)
13 Rieko Ioane (41) - 2nd/3rd choice centre (ALB, Goodhue(?))
14 Will Jordan (7) - 2nd choice RW (Reece)
15 Jordie Barrett (29) - 1st choice FB
