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All Blacks vs Pumas II

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  • D Derpus

    Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

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    @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

    Not quite

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    • boobooB booboo

      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

      Not quite

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      @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

      Not quite

      apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

      You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

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        There were ESPN paintings on the field this week - indicating an Argie 'home' game.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

          Not quite

          apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

          You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

          Not quite

          apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

          You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

          I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

          Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

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            The sponsors on the goal post padding and flags, rugby balls and even the kit that the ball boy/girls wear all changes depending on who is the designated home team.

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            • DamoD Damo

              @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

              Not quite

              apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

              You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

              I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

              Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

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              #915

              @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

              Not quite

              apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

              You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

              I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

              Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

              I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

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              • M Machpants

                @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

                Not quite

                apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

                You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

                I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

                Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

                I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

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                Damo
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                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

                Not quite

                apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

                You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

                I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

                Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

                I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

                Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.

                I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago

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                    Not unusual for a loose forward to get caught out of position on defense in their first season of test rugby. Happened with Papalii a few times, but now he's a gun.

                    Blackadder had some good impact, but has noticeably missed tackles in his previous outings. Nothing wrong with his technique, rather his positioning. He will likely improve.

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                    • DamoD Damo

                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

                      Not quite

                      apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

                      You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

                      I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

                      Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

                      I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

                      Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.

                      I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago

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                      Machpants
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                      #919

                      @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                      Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

                      Not quite

                      apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

                      You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

                      I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

                      Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

                      I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

                      Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.

                      I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago

                      We'll find out on Monday, if we are world 1, then that is what has happened for the rankings If not, WR have at least 2 brain cells to rub together.

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                        Lomax looked much improved. Taukei'aho was the standout.

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                          • DamoD Damo

                            @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.

                            Not quite

                            apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.

                            You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh

                            I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.

                            Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.

                            I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points

                            Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.

                            I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago

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                            Chris B.
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                            @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly.

                            Rugby administrators making a bollocks of their competitions?

                            I find that extremely hard to believe. 🙂

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly.

                              Rugby administrators making a bollocks of their competitions?

                              I find that extremely hard to believe. 🙂

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                              @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              @damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly.

                              Rugby administrators making a bollocks of their competitions?

                              I find that extremely hard to believe. 🙂

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                                Anyone know what the actual rule on picking up the ball from inside a ruck is? Do you just need something behind that last foot? Because ruling one out last week and letting it stand this week is a bad look for world rugby.

                                @Damo @NTA or any other refs?

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                                • broughieB broughie

                                  @african-monkey nice post. Agree about Blackadder compared with options out there except maybe the Ginger.

                                  Agree about the hookers. I think Taylor’s form has dropped as well and with the go forward with ST and AA it means we are on the front foot more. Lineouts I don’t remember being a problem yesterday.

                                  Agree with Dmac covering on the bench. JB to start.

                                  TV and Lomax were pretty good and I am with you in him replacing PT.

                                  Understand the safety of Bridge but you lost me there. Did not do anything wrong but not in my starting 23.

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                                  @broughie On Bridge, yeah, I wouldn't usually have him in my 23, but against a team that likes to put the ball up, I think he may be a good option. As I said, not really a fan of his, but I can understand why if he does get the nod for the boks with De Klerk, Pollard and Le Roux putting a lot of bombs up.

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    Anyone know what the actual rule on picking up the ball from inside a ruck is? Do you just need something behind that last foot? Because ruling one out last week and letting it stand this week is a bad look for world rugby.

                                    @Damo @NTA or any other refs?

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                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                    Anyone know what the actual rule on picking up the ball from inside a ruck is? Do you just need something behind that last foot? Because ruling one out last week and letting it stand this week is a bad look for world rugby.

                                    @Damo @NTA or any other refs?

                                    From the most recent Game Management Guidelines:

                                    "At a tackle, a player can pick up the ball as long as one foot is level with or behind the ball. At a ruck, a
                                    player can pick up the ball as long as both feet are level with or behind the ball. If a player is still bound
                                    with an opponent, then they cannot pick up the ball."

                                    So if there is no ruck, one foot. If it's a ruck and you're not bound to an opponent, two feet.

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                                      #927

                                      One thing that has impressed me about this coaching staff is the ability to get players to have their error rate lower than Super Rugby.

                                      Samisoni, QT (before he gassed out), Jordie, Akira (didn't play last night but in earlier games), Lomax etc.

                                      A lot more accurate in black.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        One thing that has impressed me about this coaching staff is the ability to get players to have their error rate lower than Super Rugby.

                                        Samisoni, QT (before he gassed out), Jordie, Akira (didn't play last night but in earlier games), Lomax etc.

                                        A lot more accurate in black.

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                                        @kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                        One thing that has impressed me about this coaching staff is the ability to get players to have their error rate lower than Super Rugby.

                                        Samisoni, QT (before he gassed out), Jordie, Akira, Lomax etc.

                                        A lot more accurate in black.

                                        Partly because the game plan is a bit tighter at this level.
                                        Partly because they're playing alongside higher quality team mates, too.

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                                          On Blackadder, at least two of the missed tackles were him shooting out of the line and got a hand on the player, so as far as I am aware that counts as a missed tackle. There was one missed tackle off a kick restart where the Argies got the ball and he actually ran around a team mate and Blackadder got a hand to him but couldn’t tackle. That is counted as a missed tackle.

                                          It reminds me when the odd game Snakey would have a higher than usual missed tackle count because he also was used as a shooter because he read the game so well.

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