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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    if it was me trying to "grow" test rugby i would cut the RWC to 16 teams, but make every team bar the hosts and the defending champions qualify.

    That way you have a glowing pinnacle of a tournament, and you also force NZ and Aus to play games in Fiji/Tonga/Samoa/Cook Islands etc, and the 6 Nations sides to play in Germany and Poland. Meaningful test matches against tier one one sides at home will do more i reckon than their current ritual slaughter for content every 4 years.

    In rugby, more is almost always less. We are not soccer, we will never be soccer. FIFA are expanding the World Cup, because they can (even though i think it's a dumb move). They have a team like Egypt at 35 in the rankings, a nation with a multi-level professional competition, and a national team that boasts the 2nd best striker in the world's biggest league. Rugby has the Czech Republic at 35, who have 5,000 registered players, most of which are kids.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup news:

    if it was me trying to "grow" test rugby i would cut the RWC to 16 teams, but make every team bar the hosts and the defending champions qualify.

    That way you have a glowing pinnacle of a tournament, and you also force NZ and Aus to play games in Fiji/Tonga/Samoa/Cook Islands etc, and the 6 Nations sides to play in Germany and Poland. Meaningful test matches against tier one one sides at home will do more i reckon than their current ritual slaughter for content every 4 years.

    In rugby, more is almost always less. We are not soccer, we will never be soccer. FIFA are expanding the World Cup, because they can (even though i think it's a dumb move). They have a team like Egypt at 35 in the rankings, a nation with a multi-level professional competition, and a national team that boasts the 2nd best striker in the world's biggest league. Rugby has the Czech Republic at 35, who have 5,000 registered players, most of which are kids.

    Has a lot going for ideas Mariner, but would suggest although maybe see ABs, Wallabies,Boks travel to Tonga, Cook Islands, I suppose Thailand, Sri Lanka etc would have to be included and how many teams could or would want to participate, as all their facilities etc would have a lot of money spent on them. I not convinced ABs/Springboks etc vs Cook Islands/Thailand etc is good for anyone.

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup news:

      if it was me trying to "grow" test rugby i would cut the RWC to 16 teams, but make every team bar the hosts and the defending champions qualify.

      That way you have a glowing pinnacle of a tournament, and you also force NZ and Aus to play games in Fiji/Tonga/Samoa/Cook Islands etc, and the 6 Nations sides to play in Germany and Poland. Meaningful test matches against tier one one sides at home will do more i reckon than their current ritual slaughter for content every 4 years.

      In rugby, more is almost always less. We are not soccer, we will never be soccer. FIFA are expanding the World Cup, because they can (even though i think it's a dumb move). They have a team like Egypt at 35 in the rankings, a nation with a multi-level professional competition, and a national team that boasts the 2nd best striker in the world's biggest league. Rugby has the Czech Republic at 35, who have 5,000 registered players, most of which are kids.

      Has a lot going for ideas Mariner, but would suggest although maybe see ABs, Wallabies,Boks travel to Tonga, Cook Islands, I suppose Thailand, Sri Lanka etc would have to be included and how many teams could or would want to participate, as all their facilities etc would have a lot of money spent on them. I not convinced ABs/Springboks etc vs Cook Islands/Thailand etc is good for anyone.

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      @Dan54 said in Rugby World Cup news:

      Thailand, Sri Lank etc would have to be included

      Thailand, Sri Lanka etc already participate in RWC qualifying.

      how many teams could or would want to participate

      93 participated in 2019 qualifying (forget current one, as covid meant WR had to play God again and eliminate teams without participating)

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        @Dan54 said in Rugby World Cup news:

        Thailand, Sri Lank etc would have to be included

        Thailand, Sri Lanka etc already participate in RWC qualifying.

        how many teams could or would want to participate

        93 participated in 2019 qualifying (forget current one, as covid meant WR had to play God again and eliminate teams without participating)

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        @Rapido said in Rugby World Cup news:

        @Dan54 said in Rugby World Cup news:

        Thailand, Sri Lank etc would have to be included

        Thailand, Sri Lanka etc already participate in RWC qualifying.

        how many teams could or would want to participate

        93 participated in 2019 qualifying (forget current one, as covid meant WR had to play God again and eliminate teams without participating)

        Yep I know that, I was talking about who thw ABs would have to plat. There was discussions of ABs going to places like Cook Islands etc

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @booboo Well that would be the obvious solution, but they made it more complicated in 99. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to pull a rabbit out somehow or rather.

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          @Kirwan said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @booboo Well that would be the obvious solution, but they made it more complicated in 99. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to pull a rabbit out somehow or rather.

          Did I just get wooshed?

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @taniwharugby

            Pickerall unable to be developed, no feel for the game what so ever.

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            @Chris said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @taniwharugby

            Pickerall unable to be developed, no feel for the game what so ever.

            My question is: did he play?

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Chris said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @taniwharugby

              Pickerall unable to be developed, no feel for the game what so ever.

              My question is: did he play?

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              @booboo

              Looking at the way he refs I would say no,
              But am not 100% on that.
              He doesn’t see where the game is flowing
              Or have any understanding of the way a game moves.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Kirwan said in Rugby World Cup news:

                @booboo Well that would be the obvious solution, but they made it more complicated in 99. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to pull a rabbit out somehow or rather.

                Did I just get wooshed?

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                @booboo you said four pools of five for 20 teams right? In 99, they did five pools of four for 20, and a complicated playoff structure. I would expect them to be that stupid again.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @booboo you said four pools of five for 20 teams right? In 99, they did five pools of four for 20, and a complicated playoff structure. I would expect them to be that stupid again.

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                  @Kirwan yeah, recall the weirdness of '99.

                  But since then ... they've just fucked up the seedlings...

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @booboo

                    Looking at the way he refs I would say no,
                    But am not 100% on that.
                    He doesn’t see where the game is flowing
                    Or have any understanding of the way a game moves.

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                    @Chris pretty much my point.

                    Doesn't seem to have the grasp of those who have played it and lived it and debated and drunk and drunked and argued it. Seems to know the laws and theory, not the experience.

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                      https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1660561559754625026?t=rNKbBbqyLJ36rsA3hfHVkA&s=19

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                        #72

                        World cup 23 medals
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                          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/christian-lealiifano-eyes-samoa-world-cup-selection-202365

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                            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/christian-lealiifano-eyes-samoa-world-cup-selection-202365

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                            @Bones

                            After what he's been thru, if anyone deserves another RWC shot it's Christian Lealiifano.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              World cup 23 medals
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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup news:

                              World cup 23 medals
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                              Might be the only time we see them.

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup news:

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                                  Is it me or does that ball look very rounded?

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                                    Fiji world cup training group -
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                                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                      Fiji world cup training group -
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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy no Tavatavanawai? Interesting

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy no Tavatavanawai? Interesting

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                                        @Bones Seemingly intent on playing for New Zealand...

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                                          When you're away from the screen

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nzme-secures-rugby-world-cup-2023-broadcast-rights/2DIIOUVUHFCVPF6YPJEK7562DI/

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