Argentina v All Blacks
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@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
22m 7 times with the ball resulting in 4 turn overs.
In what way was Clarke responsible for 4 turnovers?
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
22m 7 times with the ball resulting in 4 turn overs.
In what way was Clarke responsible for 4 turnovers?
SANZAAR stats, seems right. Compare Narawa
7 runs for 79m, 11 tackles no misses, no turn overs
Edit. I fact you maybe right, seems excessive. Anyway he was ok, but there are miles better out there.
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@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
22m 7 times with the ball resulting in 4 turn overs.
In what way was Clarke responsible for 4 turnovers?
SANZAAR stats, seems right. Compare Narawa
7 runs for 79m, 11 tackles no misses, no turn overs
Edit. I fact you maybe right, seems excessive. Anyway he was ok, but there are miles better out there.
@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
22m 7 times with the ball resulting in 4 turn overs.
In what way was Clarke responsible for 4 turnovers?
SANZAAR stats, seems right. Compare Narawa
7 runs for 79m, 11 tackles no misses, no turn overs
Narawa was excellent but 4 turnovers assigned to Clarke does not "seem right"
Having said that - keen to see Leicester at 11 next week.
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@KiwiMurph Yes he did nothing wrong today. Not saying he was fantastic, but he was alright.
I think some people just want him to do bad so they can get their preferred choice in.
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Thanks Te Nana for ruining the result of the Springbok v Aus game. Was going to watch that afterwards. Knob.
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@African-Monkey no one in their right mind would start Clarke ahead of LF at the moment.
@Stag Well he was there today, and he was solid enough, no complaints here. People said the same last year as well about how Fai'anaganuku should have been ahead of Clarke and had an absolute shocker against the Irish and wasn't seen again after that.
If Fai'anganuku comes back in for Clarke then yeah, you won't get any complaints from me about it, but going off Clarke's performance today, he was fine, not shit like some will try and say. I'd be happy to see Clarke again if he retains his spot.
I wouldn't have Frizzell usually, but he got a go today and was solid, fair play to him. He might have earned another shot next week.
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We’ve peaked too early
Aaron Smith’s play still very critical to us playing well. I thought he was excellent.
Team played well.
Argies were helter skelter. Their set up in attack is quite unpredictable. The 9 and 10 tonight were all over the show and very rarely looked in sync together. When they stood deep I thought our rush defence had them well covered.
It’s not always an easy style to play against so well done to the ABs especially the on field leaders for getting it done.
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@Stag Well he was there today, and he was solid enough, no complaints here. People said the same last year as well about how Fai'anaganuku should have been ahead of Clarke and had an absolute shocker against the Irish and wasn't seen again after that.
If Fai'anganuku comes back in for Clarke then yeah, you won't get any complaints from me about it, but going off Clarke's performance today, he was fine, not shit like some will try and say. I'd be happy to see Clarke again if he retains his spot.
I wouldn't have Frizzell usually, but he got a go today and was solid, fair play to him. He might have earned another shot next week.
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Qusetion, where does Jordan fit into the picture? I admit to not being a fan of his at 15 at this level, so does Narawa mis out. I thought both BB and Dmac looked good at 15.
Oh and to those that were wondering, I think we saw Lord answer why Ryan wanted to start him, he looks to have a huge future to me! nAnd as I keep saying 2m+ locks don't grow on trees.
Also Frizzell I thought was bloody good at back of lineout! -
During the last decade, the ABs often won games thanks to their bench. I fear this won't be the case anymore. There was a huge difference between the starting props and their substitutes, for instance.
@cgrant said in Argentina v All Blacks:
During the last decade, the ABs often won games thanks to their bench. I fear this won't be the case anymore. There was a huge difference between the starting props and their substitutes, for instance.
Good news there are quite a few players that should be able to strengthen the bench, either by coming onto the bench or by coming into the starting xv and then a starter from today goes to the bench.
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@Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Why? It's generally accepted here that you don't post spoilers.
I think it's impossible to have a hard rule about that. It changes from match to match. In general if you're in a live match thread you shouldn't be surprised if you see another result or hints about the other games. Particularly after full time
When there's two NPC games played at the same time, it's more of a rule
With a game like this, AB's early in the morning and the Saffa/Aussie game overnight, posting about the other game should probably wait until a bit later
I deleted a couple of posts that were talking only about the Aussie/Saffa result as this game kicked off. It spoiled the result for me but I wasn't surprised I saw it in this thread
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@Tim said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Rieko Ioane's defence has been excellent.
Stats have him missing 50% of his tackles (5 out if 10) so not so sure about that.
Midfield combo looked good tho apart from that
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Can't remember the last time the ABs started their first game of the year looking so slick, normally a rusty slow start.
Also satisfying to finally see them properly attacking the opposition throw getting a jumper up early as opposed to their normal half arsed lift
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@Tim said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Rieko Ioane's defence has been excellent.
Stats have him missing 50% of his tackles (5 out if 10) so not so sure about that.
Midfield combo looked good tho apart from that
@WillieTheWaiter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Tim said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Rieko Ioane's defence has been excellent.
Stats have him missing 50% of his tackles (5 out if 10) so not so sure about that.
Midfield combo looked good tho apart from that
I was surprised to see that missed tackle count - thought he missed 1 or two but not that many.
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Jordie Barrett finally moving to 12 could potentially be the winning of this World Cup. The options he offers our attack and his defence will be the difference in the big games.
All blacks should be doing a 6-2 split on the bench with all the versatility in the backline of everyone playing heaps of positions. Just one normal back to cover injuries and a lot of short hard impacts in the forwards
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@Tim said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Rieko Ioane's defence has been excellent.
Stats have him missing 50% of his tackles (5 out if 10) so not so sure about that.
Midfield combo looked good tho apart from that
@WillieTheWaiter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Tim said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Rieko Ioane's defence has been excellent.
Stats have him missing 50% of his tackles (5 out if 10) so not so sure about that.
Midfield combo looked good tho apart from that
Missed tackle stats can be misleading. If he's rushing up and/or shepherding a player a certain way it can be put down as a missed tackle.
