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Argentina v All Blacks

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Remember when Richie was hailed a hero for dropping an elbow into that fat Saffa, now Cane does his best to preempt that situation and protect the ref and it's now an issue to some. 😉

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      Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Chris-B said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        @African-Monkey said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        @Nepia Yeah he was solid. A 7 out of 10 performance for me. The commentators made out like it was prime Kaino out there which it wasn't, but he did a decent enough job.

        I reckon Fozzie and Ryan will be delighted with Frizell.

        He was doing exactly what I think he's picked for - providing a tall and effective third lineout option, making his tackles and trucking the ball up one off the ruck and securely recycling. Got himself around the park and a few nice little touches e.g. in the first try, as well.

        Hey TJ. The trick now is to see if he can do it again.

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        @Nepia said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        @Chris-B said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        @African-Monkey said in Argentina v All Blacks:

        @Nepia Yeah he was solid. A 7 out of 10 performance for me. The commentators made out like it was prime Kaino out there which it wasn't, but he did a decent enough job.

        I reckon Fozzie and Ryan will be delighted with Frizell.

        He was doing exactly what I think he's picked for - providing a tall and effective third lineout option, making his tackles and trucking the ball up one off the ruck and securely recycling. Got himself around the park and a few nice little touches e.g. in the first try, as well.

        Hey TJ. The trick now is to see if he can do it again.

        I reckon Kaino would've been pleased with himself to have played as well as Shannon did today!

        Your job, in future, is to correct anyone who comes out with the outrageous line that Frizell has never had a good test, so that I don't have to be called TJ. 🙂

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        • voodooV voodoo

          Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

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          @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

          Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

          He got one knee to touch the ground, so becomes tackle.

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            Also thought watching this game we spoilt for good tv coverage of rugby here aren't we? The camera work/angles was pretty poor I thought.

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            • voodooV voodoo

              Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

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              @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

              Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

              He got a one knee down then the Aggies lifted him back up again. Penalty, they didn't release

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                I thought he just stuck out a foot to trip him? Not legal in rugby but fine for pitch invaders

                Look again. It was a nice kick. Argentinian football fans should appreciate that

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                @canefan said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                I thought he just stuck out a foot to trip him? Not legal in rugby but fine for pitch invaders

                Look again. It was a nice kick. Argentinian football fans should appreciate that

                Nah you look again, he tripped him. Good work, gold star

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300924148/watch-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane-lashes-out-at-pitch-invader

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

                  He got one knee to touch the ground, so becomes tackle.

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                  @Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                  Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

                  He got one knee to touch the ground, so becomes tackle.

                  Ah, I didn’t see his knee touch, thanks

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                  • M Machpants

                    @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

                    He got a one knee down then the Aggies lifted him back up again. Penalty, they didn't release

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                    @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    @voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                    Fellas with actual knowledge of the rules - what was the go with the penalty we earned when JB (I think) ran upright and couldn’t get to ground, but Angus made all the Argies let go of him?

                    He got a one knee down then the Aggies lifted him back up again. Penalty, they didn't release

                    Didn’t see his knee touch, tks

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                      Why? It's generally accepted here that you don't post spoilers.

                      I think it's impossible to have a hard rule about that. It changes from match to match. In general if you're in a live match thread you shouldn't be surprised if you see another result or hints about the other games. Particularly after full time

                      When there's two NPC games played at the same time, it's more of a rule

                      With a game like this, AB's early in the morning and the Saffa/Aussie game overnight, posting about the other game should probably wait until a bit later

                      I deleted a couple of posts that were talking only about the Aussie/Saffa result as this game kicked off. It spoiled the result for me but I wasn't surprised I saw it in this thread

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                      @Duluth said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                      @Stargazer said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                      Why? It's generally accepted here that you don't post spoilers.

                      I think it's impossible to have a hard rule about that. It changes from match to match. In general if you're in a live match thread you shouldn't be surprised if you see another result or hints about the other games. Particularly after full time

                      When there's two NPC games played at the same time, it's more of a rule

                      With a game like this, AB's early in the morning and the Saffa/Aussie game overnight, posting about the other game should probably wait until a bit later

                      I deleted a couple of posts that were talking only about the Aussie/Saffa result as this game kicked off. It spoiled the result for me but I wasn't surprised I saw it in this thread

                      And the fact it was said during the fucking game so unless you had it on mute you were proper fucked

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Cully nails it re: the attack. A lot of good stuff in this article.

                        What was striking about the All Blacks was how few times they went into predictable three-man pod systems in attack.
                        
                        McKenzie, meanwhile, frequently stepped in at first receiver rather than a tight forward, and he always had willing runners to choose from.
                        
                        A plea to New Zealand’s Super Rugby teams – follow suit and empower your No 10s: they don’t have to spend most of the game sitting out the back waiting for a backdoor play.
                        

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/132510403/good-signs-for-the-all-blacks-as-attack-takes-a-step-forward

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                        Cully nails it re: the attack. A lot of good stuff in this article.

                        What was striking about the All Blacks was how few times they went into predictable three-man pod systems in attack.
                        
                        McKenzie, meanwhile, frequently stepped in at first receiver rather than a tight forward, and he always had willing runners to choose from.
                        
                        A plea to New Zealand’s Super Rugby teams – follow suit and empower your No 10s: they don’t have to spend most of the game sitting out the back waiting for a backdoor play.
                        

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/132510403/good-signs-for-the-all-blacks-as-attack-takes-a-step-forward

                        I wonder if this is a Joe Schmidt influence, I can't help but think he has spent the summer figuring out how to beat the NH sides etc.

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                          Just seen the Same Cane incident. He stopped the guy.

                          The rubbish I read had me thinking he gave him one on the ground.

                          You enter the field as a streaker, protester or otherwise and your rights are left in the stand in my eyes.

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                            If Cane gets any form of censure for that then rugby is fucked

                            Security weren’t good enough, Cane was

                            Who know what the intentions of the invader were

                            Needed to be stopped asap

                            Move on

                            Nothing to see here

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                              Angus had one of his best matches

                              But was very perplexed that Argie got sent to the bin on Ardie’s try for repeated infringements but no YC against NZ for Argentinian’s first try for doing exactly the same

                              As I’ve posted before, infringing prevents you from scoring then YC

                              You score, move on

                              Don’t need the double whammy

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                Woulda looked better if he put a big shoulder on him...nothing should come of it, I mean at least he didn't abuse an official...

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                                @taniwharugby said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                Woulda looked better if he put a big shoulder on him...nothing should come of it, I mean at least he didn't abuse an official...

                                That would require a hard shoulder….

                                Mine is the red n black coat

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                  I thought he just stuck out a foot to trip him? Not legal in rugby but fine for pitch invaders

                                  Look again. It was a nice kick. Argentinian football fans should appreciate that

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                                  @canefan said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                  @Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                  I thought he just stuck out a foot to trip him? Not legal in rugby but fine for pitch invaders

                                  Look again. It was a nice kick. Argentinian football fans should appreciate that

                                  they'd prefer a hand from God..

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                                    Exciting to see how Ryan's forward nous stacks up against the big boys. We'll know soon enough.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      Remember when Richie was hailed a hero for dropping an elbow into that fat Saffa, now Cane does his best to preempt that situation and protect the ref and it's now an issue to some. 😉

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                                      @Nepia said in Argentina v All Blacks:

                                      Remember when Richie was hailed a hero for dropping an elbow into that fat Saffa, now Cane does his best to preempt that situation and protect the ref and it's now an issue to some. 😉

                                      Richie pulled him off but AJ Venter was the one who punched him.

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                                        F***en SBW stuffed it up by giving pitch invader WC winner's medal!!

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                                          What a friggen hiding, awesome start to the season. Stoked to see that backline go so well, DMac-Jordie-Rieko with Beauden organising things from the back is seriously threatening if the forwards get any sort of parity. They will only get better with more time together. The wailing and gnashing of teeth over Beauden's selection at 15 was OTT, as expected, he's still world class at the back and his experience will be crucial at the RWC.

                                          Mo'unga should be able to slot into that formation as well, but he needs to be taking the ball at first receiver more than he has in the past the same way DMac does. Our 10 has to be directing play at test level, not always looking for mis-matches out wide that generally don't exist.

                                          We definitely got some momentum on the EOYT, so great to see us continue to build on that. An in form DMac adds a lot to the team as well, whether at 10, 15 or the bench.

                                          The weekends results set up an absolute cracker of a test against SA - bring it on!

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