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RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia

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  • NTAN NTA

    My first impression of the red card tackle, watching in real time: "fuck someone is in trouble here" - based mainly on the fact the second tackler (EdG) didn't lower himself at all.

    Once the replay came up it was clear he was fucked. Yes the tackler dipped his head as he was going into contact, but firstly: everyone does that, so tacklers should know, and the only effect it probably had was to stop him getting hit on the chin. He didn't really drop in height significatly.

    Was very lazy from EdG and deserved a red card.

    1. Always upright
    2. No significant drop from ball carrier
    3. Leading with the shoulder - no real attempt to wrap

    Now we spin the wheel.

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    @NTA dunno if I'd say 'deserved' as many don't 'deserve' a card.

    But yep, off to the judiciary

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/e5/f3/75e5f3abbce0c2d0ae14159adbceafb4.gif

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      As you all should know by now, I am a very astute watcher of the game and I noticed one thing today that nobody else seems to have mentioned. Sam Whitelock seems to have more hair.

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      @Crazy-Horse said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

      As you all should know by now, I am a very astute watcher of the game and I noticed one thing today that nobody else seems to have mentioned. Sam Whitelock seems to have more hair.

      It’s a lot greyer of late.

      As someone else has mentioned the most amazing thing is that he is actually younger than Dane Coles who it turns out is older than Brad Thorn was when he played.

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        Watching a replay. Half time thoughts

        Considering how we want to play I have no idea why DMac isn't starting at 10
        The case for roigard not being th3 bench halfback gets weaker all the time
        If we have to rely on either ALB or Havili playing any minutes let alone starting in a knock out game we are cooked
        The TMO can get entirely fucked taking that maul try off

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          Watching a replay. Half time thoughts

          Considering how we want to play I have no idea why DMac isn't starting at 10
          The case for roigard not being th3 bench halfback gets weaker all the time
          If we have to rely on either ALB or Havili playing any minutes let alone starting in a knock out game we are cooked
          The TMO can get entirely fucked taking that maul try off

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          @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

          The TMO can get entirely fucked taking that maul try off

          It's always funny when you see the next maul - nowhere near the try line - allowed to continue in exactly the same manner.

          And not "ha-ha" funny

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Steve said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

            Ive watched De Groots tackle a few times at normal speed now.

            There is nothing in it for me, but I admit im a dinosaur.

            Ive dished out and taken hits like that in all my playing days.

            He hits shoulder first, and then glances head.

            I thought you were only 38 ?

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            @MN5 said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

            @Steve said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

            Ive watched De Groots tackle a few times at normal speed now.

            There is nothing in it for me, but I admit im a dinosaur.

            Ive dished out and taken hits like that in all my playing days.

            He hits shoulder first, and then glances head.

            I thought you were only 38 ?

            Time waits for no man my friend. Im younger than the rest of ye but ready for the knackers yard none the less.

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Steve said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

              taken hits like that in all my playing days.

              Explains the anger

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              @booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

              @Steve said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

              taken hits like that in all my playing days.

              Explains the anger

              Left myself open to that sort of quip. Well played.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                Watching a replay. Half time thoughts

                Considering how we want to play I have no idea why DMac isn't starting at 10
                The case for roigard not being th3 bench halfback gets weaker all the time
                If we have to rely on either ALB or Havili playing any minutes let alone starting in a knock out game we are cooked
                The TMO can get entirely fucked taking that maul try off

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                @mariner4life the amount of basic errors DMac made against an average opposition should give you your answer.

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                  Discipline is still a massive worry. 12 penalties conceded against a poor side like Namibia is a terrible stat.

                  Not sure why this continues to be an issue. Perhaps the coaches are far too nice and the players don't fear them. Drop serial offenders for a game and I bet they don't do it again. Whatever it is they better fix it fast.

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                      Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

                      Massively changing things up.
                      Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

                      15 Will Jordan
                      14 Telea
                      13 Reiko
                      12 J Barrett
                      11 Leicester
                      10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
                      9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
                      8 Savea
                      7 Blackadder - special player into everything
                      6 Frizell
                      5 Scott Barrett (captain)
                      4 Retallick
                      3 Lomax if fit
                      2 Samisoni
                      1 DeGroot (if available)

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                        @antipodean said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                        Fozzie general expression in that video either shows he is really feeling the pressure or is having trouble holding in a massive dump.

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                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                          @Tim said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                          Was that an old school scissors move?

                          Going would be proud of Roigard.

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                          @chimoaus said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                          @Tim said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                          Was that an old school scissors move?

                          Going would be proud of Roigard.

                          The kid comes in and looks at home starting for the Canes. He comes off the bench and keeps the ABs machine humming, albeit late in a game we were well in control of. And he starts a test, albeit vs Namibia, and earns MOTM honours. Cam looks to have so much time to make decisions, has not been phased during his meteoric rise, at least as far as Ive seen him. This kid is mustard

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                            Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

                            Massively changing things up.
                            Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

                            15 Will Jordan
                            14 Telea
                            13 Reiko
                            12 J Barrett
                            11 Leicester
                            10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
                            9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
                            8 Savea
                            7 Blackadder - special player into everything
                            6 Frizell
                            5 Scott Barrett (captain)
                            4 Retallick
                            3 Lomax if fit
                            2 Samisoni
                            1 DeGroot (if available)

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                            @Frank said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                            Okay here's my updated (may need to administered anti-psychotics for severe delusions and basically knowing nothing about rugby) team for the QF.

                            Massively changing things up.
                            Secret trainings and a change in tactics to keep the ball in hand more.

                            15 Will Jordan
                            14 Telea
                            13 Reiko
                            12 J Barrett
                            11 Leicester
                            10 Beauden Barret (with STRICT INSTRUCTIONS to play direct, straightening to run at the line)
                            9 Roigard (fucks with the other teams prep + Aaron smith on at some point to speed the game up)
                            8 Savea
                            7 Blackadder - special player into everything
                            6 Frizell
                            5 Scott Barrett (captain)
                            4 Retallick
                            3 Lomax if fit
                            2 Samisoni
                            1 DeGroot (if available)

                            That's a team right there. I'd really like to see how DMac would try to steer the cutter in a team like that. He has done exactly what you are asking of BB since returning from Japan, straightforward simple game management, allowing his outsides to shine. I give him a pass for the Bled 3 display having the handicap of 9 new players in the team

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                              Only takeaway from the 2nd half was

                              Why do we have no pace on the wing? Created so many overlaps that guys couldn't take advantage of because they were being run down and felt the need to cut in.

                              I'm not too worried about the penalty count given old mate piercey was really only reffing one team today (which is fine, they needed the help, and we needed the practice)

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                Only takeaway from the 2nd half was

                                Why do we have no pace on the wing? Created so many overlaps that guys couldn't take advantage of because they were being run down and felt the need to cut in.

                                I'm not too worried about the penalty count given old mate piercey was really only reffing one team today (which is fine, they needed the help, and we needed the practice)

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                                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                                Only takeaway from the 2nd half was

                                Why do we have no pace on the wing? Created so many overlaps that guys couldn't take advantage of because they were being run down and felt the need to cut in.

                                I'm not too worried about the penalty count given old mate piercey was really only reffing one team today (which is fine, they needed the help, and we needed the practice)

                                Was the cover defence still there? I'm not sure the space was enough out wide because we didn't consistently go up the guts to drag the defence in and create more

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                                  Lol deep "DMac made errors" unlike the encumbents that are always spotless

                                  He probes for holes
                                  He puts defences in their heels
                                  He puts guys in gaps (but we are shit at hole running)
                                  His wide pass is faster than his competitors
                                  He kicks further than they do as well

                                  I see no reason if we are going to play flat out football why he isn't the first choice.

                                  Also, BB seems to defer to him, let's him play 10, and BB plays fullback, and it fucking works.

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                                    Namibia not holding weight

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                                    @booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                                    Namibia not holding weight

                                    AB forwards got played like a fiddle in that scrum. Oldest trick in the book and they should’ve been more patient.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @booboo said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                                      Namibia not holding weight

                                      AB forwards got played like a fiddle in that scrum. Oldest trick in the book and they should’ve been more patient.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                                      AB forwards got played like a fiddle

                                      As did the ref

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                                        If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

                                        Would Roigard start over that player

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                                          If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

                                          Would Roigard start over that player

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                                          @Yeahtheboys said in RWC Week 2: All Blacks v Namibia:

                                          If Aaron smith wasn’t called Aaron smith and his rugby skills were inserted onto another body (not called Aaron smith) for the last year.

                                          Would Roigard start over that player

                                          Nope. Smith brings unrivalled speed and accuracy of pass, which the All Blacks main gameplan is built around.

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