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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • voodooV voodoo

    @KiwiMurph said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    Stuff reporting Telea back, Whitelock to start/Retallick to bench and Samisoni to take Coles' bench spot

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300992049/rugby-world-cup-errant-wing-mark-telea-set-to-return-to-all-blacks-lineup-for-semifinal

    Locks rotation understandable, but Sami coming back to the bench seems odd unless they feel like we will really need him against the Boks so he needs game time now?

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    @voodoo

    Give Sami some game time in case Cody or Cole get injured?

    Think injuries could be key to winning if we get to the Final.

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    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

      @Damo said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      It's all hyperbolic bullshit anyway. Damaged the legacy? jog on.
      Lost the Bledisloe? No
      Lost the Rugby Championship? No
      Crashed out of the World Cup early? No

      "Oh but we lost to Ireland for the first time" they wail. Have Ireland ever been the best team in the world before?
      "we lost to France!" well this is the best French team i have ever seen. And we've only played them in France.

      Has it all been sunshine and blowjobs? No. Losing to Argentina at home still rankles, despite the fact they gat an annual chance at it now. And there have been some very average games. But really, that is just us reverting to the mean. Even this tarnished legacy regime is winning 7 out of 10 times isn't it?

      Not a vintage AB period, but the real old guys here will tell you about times we couldn't win games. Fuck, even i remember 1998.

      98 was fucking vintage compared to some of the bumbling, clueless losses under Foster.

      No it was not. '98 was fucking horrific. Nothing compares to 1998 in my lifetime.

      No it wasn't. It was a team that had to rapidly rebuild and was bloody unlucky not to win 3 of those 5 games. They were effing robbed against SA and would have won both with video refs. I'll fucking take that over a series loss to Ireland at home, loss to SA, loss to Argentina at home and that bloody draw against England.

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      @Rancid-Schnitzel not forgetting all those years trying to regain the Bledisloe- those were bad times

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        Come on Foz you got this

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        @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        Come on Foz you got this

        Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

        Ta.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          Going to this

          This will be my first neutral test match live (as in I have no dog in the fight)

          Was really hoping we'd be there but alas no

          I will be cheering for Argentina though as mentioned earlier - support the team which put you out

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          @MiketheSnow said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Going to this

          This will be my first neutral test match live (as in I have no dog in the fight)

          Was really hoping we'd be there but alas no

          I will be cheering for Argentina though as mentioned earlier - support the team which put you out

          What happens if the team the put you out then gets put out? Do you support the team that puts out the team that put you out? Or are you working from a blank slate in that scenario?

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          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

            @Dan54 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Come on Foz you got this

            Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

            It's time to move on.
            If we win this it will be our greatest achievement

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            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Dan54 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Come on Foz you got this

            Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

            It's time to move on.
            If we win this it will be our greatest achievement

            As an isolated achievement in and of itself, yes. But I would rank the period from 2010 to 2015 as one great achievement that will never be surpassed. You cannot look at the two RWCs won during that outside of the context of complete and utter domination throughout that period. That's why this team's achievements, and those of the current Boks team if they go back-to-back, just won't compare.

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              I think undefeated in calendar year 2013 was probably our best achievement, esp given the way it ended with that last gasp try against Ireland

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                Gotta go with the top team again surely? Understand if Telea swaps in for LF and Whitelock for BBBR. Would love to see Roigard on the bench, and hope DMac gets decent minutes this week.

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                    stodders
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                    #325

                    Whitelock swap with Retallick.

                    Tele'a in. Fainga'anuku out of the 23.

                    Taukei'aho in. Coles out of the 23.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      Come on Foz you got this

                      Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

                      Ta.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                      Come on Foz you got this

                      Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

                      Ta.

                      Hey I was nervous last week

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                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        Come on Foz you got this

                        Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

                        Ta.

                        Hey I was nervous last week

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                        @BerniesCorner you'd best continue to be nervous this week 🙂

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            Come on Foz you got this

                            Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

                            Ta.

                            Hey I was nervous last week

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                            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            Come on Foz you got this

                            Mods: Can we have a Most Repeated and Upvoted Post category in next year's Fernies? @Berniescorner deserves recognition.

                            Ta.

                            Hey I was nervous last week

                            Worked then. Should work again.

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                              #330

                              I’d have preferred to have had Coles and Roigard on the bench. Foster has always had a bit of a thing against Hurricanes players.

                              No arguments with the rest of the 23.

                              Anyway, Go Black!

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                                Sensible selection minus Roigard.

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                                • juniorJ junior

                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  Going to this

                                  This will be my first neutral test match live (as in I have no dog in the fight)

                                  Was really hoping we'd be there but alas no

                                  I will be cheering for Argentina though as mentioned earlier - support the team which put you out

                                  What happens if the team the put you out then gets put out? Do you support the team that puts out the team that put you out? Or are you working from a blank slate in that scenario?

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                                  @junior said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  Going to this

                                  This will be my first neutral test match live (as in I have no dog in the fight)

                                  Was really hoping we'd be there but alas no

                                  I will be cheering for Argentina though as mentioned earlier - support the team which put you out

                                  What happens if the team the put you out then gets put out? Do you support the team that puts out the team that put you out? Or are you working from a blank slate in that scenario?

                                  Then it’s NZ with my support

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                                    Spot on.

                                    Don't mind the change at hooker, if Taukeiaho isn't wanted for the final if we make it, we can trust Coles to be back up to speed without needing to play this week, but not vice versa.

                                    Can't complain about the selection at all given what's gone before.

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                                      Plus, the old man gets a rest. Wouldn't be great if him or Taylor went down and we had to dust down Sami for next week when he hasn't played in forever.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Plus, the old man gets a rest. Wouldn't be great if him or Taylor went down and we had to dust down Sami for next week when he hasn't played in forever.

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                                        @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        Plus, the old man gets a rest. Wouldn't be great if him or Taylor went down and we had to dust down Sami for next week when he hasn't played in forever.

                                        Does that apply to other dirty dirties? Vai'i, Jacobsen, etc?

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                                          @Bones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Plus, the old man gets a rest. Wouldn't be great if him or Taylor went down and we had to dust down Sami for next week when he hasn't played in forever.

                                          Does that apply to other dirty dirties? Vai'i, Jacobsen, etc?

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                                          stodders
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                                          @Machpants worry about that once the semi final is done and won. First you need to earn the right to play in the final.

                                          Savea aside, most of the squad have not been overloaded due to recovering from injury or rotation.

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