All Blacks 2024
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
Well if he is an injury magnet, hopefully he will attract the injury players that are actually a real asset?
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I have changed my mind on Love, his youth and little prep time and possibly being not at 100% suggests to me it may be better not to not select him for the first test.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
its an emotional support deal, he sits with injured people as he knows what theyve been through
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
Plays multiple positions maybe not sure.
He didn't make the full squad so they picked Proctor which was the right call. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
This thread is really getting over the top some people need to go and grab their toys and jump back in their cots.
If anyone is lacking maturity it is the people posting the immature bleating posts.Im quite happy with the Canes selections. Love and Lakai's time will come
But the fact is Robertson blew it. He had so much good will but a good portion has gone now. And he looks a little small minded and insular
He now must win. Then all will be forgiven
He has blown it in your mind he hasn't even played a test yet that is over the top.
I do wonder why an injury magnet like Havili is a cover for injury.
Plays multiple positions maybe not sure.
He didn't make the full squad so they picked Proctor which was the right call.This post is deleted! -
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Do Robertson, Ryan and co. have a race problem?
Selection after selection after selection, they have overlooked a brown-skinned player for the paler alternative. A really grim start to the supposed new era.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MajorRage Ardie overlooked for the captaincy, albeit for a very good candidate in Scott Barrett
Akira Ioane, nowhere to be seen, although he's signed to go to Japan.
Hoskins Sotutu not included, but given some encouraging comments by the Head Coach.
We might not like it, but questions will be asked if there's a pattern here?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Do Robertson, Ryan and co. have a race problem?
Selection after selection after selection, they have overlooked a brown-skinned player for the paler alternative. A really grim start to the supposed new era.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MajorRage Ardie overlooked for the captaincy, albeit for a very good candidate in Scott Barrett
Akira Ioane, nowhere to be seen, although he's signed to go to Japan.
Hoskins Sotutu not included, but given some encouraging comments by the Head Coach.
We might not like it, but questions will be asked if there's a pattern here?
To tell you the truth, I've been laughing at this all day with the headline 'is razor a racist'
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I would like to see Blackadder and Sititi both used as the impact bench loosie. I reckon that is their best spot. Give them 30 minutes to come on and go berserk.
Finau strikes me as the best 6 option with either Papalii or Jacobson at 7.
I hope we don't see Blackadder 6 and Jacobson bench for example as I don't think that suits either player.
I donât think Blackadder will start at blindside against England.
Scooter has played full games for the ABs over the past year or so (when he hasnât been carded) and given his endurance background/ training plus being captain that is likely to continue. I wonder if they see Vaaâi as an 80 minute guy? My thinking is could they start with Scooter and Vaaâi, bring Patty T off the bench (to replace Finau) in the second half and one of them move to 6 and we also bring Blackadder on to replace Papaliâi/Jacobsen at 7.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Scooter has played full games for the ABs over the past year or so (when he hasnât been carded) and given his endurance background/ training plus being captain that is likely to continue. I wonder if they see Vaaâi as an 80 minute guy? My thinking is could they start with Scooter and Vaaâi, bring Patty T off the bench (to replace Finau) in the second half and one of them move to 6 and we also bring Blackadder on to replace Papaliâi/Jacobsen at 7.
I am hoping that the loss of our great locking combo is going to put an end to Scott Barrett playing blindside. I feel the same way, but even more so about Vaai.
But then I also hoped we'd select Ardie at 7 so that we weren't forced to pick a major lineout target at 6. I think it means we're stuck with Finau at 6 and the plan has to change significantly if he's out, as he's a pretty different player to Blackadder or Jacobsen. -
@taniwharugby i stand corrected, very much the minority opinion i feel though
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@taniwharugby i stand corrected, very much the minority opinion i feel though
Minority of 1
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A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
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@sparky has had some interesting takes since the SF loss haha
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I read Sotutu was not selected for the NZ XV last year?
Perhaps those issues (and there must have been major ones with either his playing style or attitude) still linger. -
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
The quoting function makes it appear like I said it when it was sparky
Nothing worse than an apparent misattribution on a Tuesday afternoon surrounded by screaming kids.
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No, he just wasn't selected. Didn't want to talk to the coaches that thought 12 loose forwards were better than him, including some VERY ordinary players.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No, he just wasn't selected. Didn't want to talk to the coaches that thought 12 loose forwards were better than him, including some VERY ordinary players.
What the hell went wrong that year?
Seriously................something must have happened or been amiss.
Duluth said there was an apparent personality clash but it was indicated that that was ironed out pretty early on.
There must be a part of his game they didn't like.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
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Sotutu's reaction to missing the squad last year I'm sure has done him no favours. If they already see him sitting behind Ardie, and see him as a specialist 8, maybe they have decided that he is not the man they want in the environment.
I don't actually believe Razor and Jase Ryan think Sititi is a better player right now, this is clearly more nuanced than that.
You mean about this ânot returning a phone callâ?
I think that is ridiculous it was even made public.
A 24 yr old young man, had his career aspirations crushed by a punitive decision to not even include him in a AB squad, meaning he wonât make the RWC squad and not even get in the 2nd team.
It was also a decision that had a major financial impact on him.
It would have him thinking if he had a future in NZ or if he needed to look overseas.
But somehow, itâs all his fault because He didnât return a phone call within 48 hours of having his world completely thrown into turmoil.
Itâs complete bullshit
