All Blacks 2024
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Do Robertson, Ryan and co. have a race problem?
Selection after selection after selection, they have overlooked a brown-skinned player for the paler alternative. A really grim start to the supposed new era.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MajorRage Ardie overlooked for the captaincy, albeit for a very good candidate in Scott Barrett
Akira Ioane, nowhere to be seen, although he's signed to go to Japan.
Hoskins Sotutu not included, but given some encouraging comments by the Head Coach.
We might not like it, but questions will be asked if there's a pattern here?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Do Robertson, Ryan and co. have a race problem?
Selection after selection after selection, they have overlooked a brown-skinned player for the paler alternative. A really grim start to the supposed new era.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MajorRage Ardie overlooked for the captaincy, albeit for a very good candidate in Scott Barrett
Akira Ioane, nowhere to be seen, although he's signed to go to Japan.
Hoskins Sotutu not included, but given some encouraging comments by the Head Coach.
We might not like it, but questions will be asked if there's a pattern here?
To tell you the truth, I've been laughing at this all day with the headline 'is razor a racist'
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I would like to see Blackadder and Sititi both used as the impact bench loosie. I reckon that is their best spot. Give them 30 minutes to come on and go berserk.
Finau strikes me as the best 6 option with either Papalii or Jacobson at 7.
I hope we don't see Blackadder 6 and Jacobson bench for example as I don't think that suits either player.
I don’t think Blackadder will start at blindside against England.
Scooter has played full games for the ABs over the past year or so (when he hasn’t been carded) and given his endurance background/ training plus being captain that is likely to continue. I wonder if they see Vaa’i as an 80 minute guy? My thinking is could they start with Scooter and Vaa’i, bring Patty T off the bench (to replace Finau) in the second half and one of them move to 6 and we also bring Blackadder on to replace Papali’i/Jacobsen at 7.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Scooter has played full games for the ABs over the past year or so (when he hasn’t been carded) and given his endurance background/ training plus being captain that is likely to continue. I wonder if they see Vaa’i as an 80 minute guy? My thinking is could they start with Scooter and Vaa’i, bring Patty T off the bench (to replace Finau) in the second half and one of them move to 6 and we also bring Blackadder on to replace Papali’i/Jacobsen at 7.
I am hoping that the loss of our great locking combo is going to put an end to Scott Barrett playing blindside. I feel the same way, but even more so about Vaai.
But then I also hoped we'd select Ardie at 7 so that we weren't forced to pick a major lineout target at 6. I think it means we're stuck with Finau at 6 and the plan has to change significantly if he's out, as he's a pretty different player to Blackadder or Jacobsen. -
@taniwharugby i stand corrected, very much the minority opinion i feel though
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@taniwharugby i stand corrected, very much the minority opinion i feel though
Minority of 1
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A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
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@sparky has had some interesting takes since the SF loss haha
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I read Sotutu was not selected for the NZ XV last year?
Perhaps those issues (and there must have been major ones with either his playing style or attitude) still linger. -
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
The quoting function makes it appear like I said it when it was sparky
Nothing worse than an apparent misattribution on a Tuesday afternoon surrounded by screaming kids.
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No, he just wasn't selected. Didn't want to talk to the coaches that thought 12 loose forwards were better than him, including some VERY ordinary players.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No, he just wasn't selected. Didn't want to talk to the coaches that thought 12 loose forwards were better than him, including some VERY ordinary players.
What the hell went wrong that year?
Seriously................something must have happened or been amiss.
Duluth said there was an apparent personality clash but it was indicated that that was ironed out pretty early on.
There must be a part of his game they didn't like.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
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Sotutu's reaction to missing the squad last year I'm sure has done him no favours. If they already see him sitting behind Ardie, and see him as a specialist 8, maybe they have decided that he is not the man they want in the environment.
I don't actually believe Razor and Jase Ryan think Sititi is a better player right now, this is clearly more nuanced than that.
You mean about this ‘not returning a phone call’?
I think that is ridiculous it was even made public.
A 24 yr old young man, had his career aspirations crushed by a punitive decision to not even include him in a AB squad, meaning he won’t make the RWC squad and not even get in the 2nd team.
It was also a decision that had a major financial impact on him.
It would have him thinking if he had a future in NZ or if he needed to look overseas.
But somehow, it’s all his fault because He didn’t return a phone call within 48 hours of having his world completely thrown into turmoil.
It’s complete bullshit
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
Not only selector, he needs to coach his group up and make them better as a team and as individuals
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Yeah looks, I could understand these project/injury selections if it was in the wider squad for the RC/EOYT....but it's for a two test series against a RWC semi finalist with two weeks build up.
I was hoping the era of mealy mouthed bullshit excuses had come to an end, it's disappointing and frustrating to feel that same old same old.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak
