All Blacks 2024
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Sotutu's reaction to missing the squad last year I'm sure has done him no favours. If they already see him sitting behind Ardie, and see him as a specialist 8, maybe they have decided that he is not the man they want in the environment.
I don't actually believe Razor and Jase Ryan think Sititi is a better player right now, this is clearly more nuanced than that.
You mean about this ‘not returning a phone call’?
I think that is ridiculous it was even made public.
A 24 yr old young man, had his career aspirations crushed by a punitive decision to not even include him in a AB squad, meaning he won’t make the RWC squad and not even get in the 2nd team.
It was also a decision that had a major financial impact on him.
It would have him thinking if he had a future in NZ or if he needed to look overseas.
But somehow, it’s all his fault because He didn’t return a phone call within 48 hours of having his world completely thrown into turmoil.
It’s complete bullshit
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
Not only selector, he needs to coach his group up and make them better as a team and as individuals
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Yeah looks, I could understand these project/injury selections if it was in the wider squad for the RC/EOYT....but it's for a two test series against a RWC semi finalist with two weeks build up.
I was hoping the era of mealy mouthed bullshit excuses had come to an end, it's disappointing and frustrating to feel that same old same old.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak -
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakwhats wrong with his Instagram post?
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakwhats wrong with his Instagram post?
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Yeah I know in my job I'd have been let off the hook if I didn't get the promotion I wanted and ignored the boss for days. I mean at 24 you can't expect to be an adult!
It’s not like he was his boss was it? He doesn’t work in the same office as him. Doesn’t see him at the blues on a daily basis or have contact with him on a daily basis. He is in charge of a team that you aren’t selected for, essentially saying. We don’t want you in this team.
It’s pretty narcissistic of Ryan to kill someone’s career and then make it all about him because he didn’t get a call back from the person he just killed, and make it public news.
Where’s the compassion for someone and realise that people are different and that he just may need some space before speaking with the person.
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@Kiwiwomble I thought "Most hated" was a reference to people who don't like the Blues, not the ABs selectors.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble I thought "Most hated" was a reference to people who don't like the Blues, not the ABs selectors.
is that what people are butt hurt about? thats what i thought it was about, the old "i support two teams, insert your team and anyone playing Auckland"
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakWhat a load of shit. Crafty Comb just wanted to select his Crusaders mate, nothing Sotutu can do about it - certainly can't do any more on the field. That post was restrained compared to what I would posted to the fat fuck and combover muppets.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job.
Yes. He's spoken before of the deep honour of captaining the national side. Given Scott Barrett's history with injuries, I's be amazed if we don't see Ardie Savea captaining the ABs in a test at some point this year.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakI’m interested, what were they?
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job.
Yes. He's spoken before of the deep honour of captaining the national side. Given Scott Barrett's history with injuries, I's be amazed if we don't see Ardie Savea captaining the ABs in a test at some point this year.
@sparky He’s not going to say publicly he doesn’t want the job. I agree he will captain the team at some stage this year.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakWhat a load of shit. Crafty Comb just wanted to select his Crusaders mate, nothing Sotutu can do about it - certainly can't do any more on the field. That post was restrained compared to what I would posted to the fat fuck and combover muppets.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakBetter than what, himself as the best 8 in the competition? I can't imagine calling a loose forward with his stats at SR level mentally weak. But we're probably not the legend you are.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakI’m interested, what were they?
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@gt12 I have no idea. I’m not in the know.
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 I have no idea. I’m not in the know.
Ok, cheers. From your post it seemed that you knew there were work-ons and that you knew he didn’t attend to them.
It’s probably just because you often have the good oil I read more into it than I guess you meant.
