All Blacks 2024
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
I think they still feel Tosi is a work in progress - because he is. His scrummaging remains a big concern.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
I think they still feel Tosi is a work in progress - because he is. His scrummaging remains a big concern.
Yes, in particular against Boks. But Fletch was scrummaging on one leg and Lomax had steam coming out of his head gasket.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 All those games counted.
He got dished a pretty bogus yellow card after 90 seconds, which probably hampered him a bit.
Cane got a red card and made 8 times the amount of tackles as your Tongan boy.
Being shit hampered him a bit.
Would have been fucking good if Sam had made one less!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 All those games counted.
He got dished a pretty bogus yellow card after 90 seconds, which probably hampered him a bit.
Cane got a red card and made 8 times the amount of tackles as your Tongan boy.
Being shit hampered him a bit.
Would have been fucking good if Sam had made one less!
If your boy had made one more then maybe he would have.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I'd be surprised if Tosi would have played if Newell was fit. It could be another example where injury solved a problem.
With benefit of hindsight it seems odd that Tosi didn’t Chuck on a jersey when Newell calf went in warm up to Boks 2.
I think they still feel Tosi is a work in progress - because he is. His scrummaging remains a big concern.
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ABs released to play NPC this round.
Friday 4 October
Northland v Otago – Semenoff Stadium, Whangarei, 7.05pm
Otago: George BowerSaturday 5 October
Manawatū v Counties Manukau – Massey University, 2.05pm
Counties Manukau: Dalton Papali’i, Cam RoigardSouthland v North Harbour – Invercargill Rugby Park, 4.35pm
Southland: Ethan de Groot
North Harbour: Mark Tele’aWellington v Hawkes Bay – Sky Stadium, Wellington, 4.35pm
Wellington: Billy ProctorCanterbury v Waikato – Apollo Projects Stadium, 7.05pm
Canterbury: George Bell, Sam Darry
Waikato: Samipeni FinauSunday 6 October
Ta$man v Taranaki – Trafalgar Park, Nelson, 2.05pm
Ta$man: Ethan Blackadder, Noah Hotham and David Havili
Taranaki: Stephen PerofetaAuckland v Bay of Plenty – Auckland Grammar School, 4.35pm
Auckland: Harry Plummer, Patrick Tuipulotu
Bay of Plenty: Pasilio Tosi -
NZ sports journalists - yikes!!!!
"The popular consensus is that in the second Bledisloe Cup test Beauden Barrett played his way into the jersey with a cool display that gave the All Blacks a sense of calm and a more stable springboard."
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on thing that has epitomized the Robertson regime so far is ruthlessness at the selection table
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NZ sports journalists - yikes!!!!
"The popular consensus is that in the second Bledisloe Cup test Beauden Barrett played his way into the jersey with a cool display that gave the All Blacks a sense of calm and a more stable springboard."
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Do I really not know what I'm watching or are journalists all adopting the walrus approach?
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Do I really not know what I'm watching or are journalists all adopting the walrus approach?
@antipodean ive felt for a long time that there is a big difference between what i enjoy and like watching, when i think a player is playing well....and what lots of other people do
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
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@antipodean ive felt for a long time that there is a big difference between what i enjoy and like watching, when i think a player is playing well....and what lots of other people do
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
There's always a delay of a few months to a year.
I remember when Rieko was out of form around 2018, people were raving about him.
Then when he actually started hitting form 2019, people were shitting on him for his past performances saying he's out of form.
Rinse and repeat. People will start criticizing Beauden for his performances currently a year from now (at which point he'll probably be in form and unjustly criticized).
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@Frank fuck me, that's the popular consensus? Who does Paul Lewis hang out with, Beauden's mum?
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Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
Funnily enough I was having that same chat about the NBA with a mate and how some people still think it's 2018 with players and how they won't move onto the next generation.
But yeah, the BB love all of a sudden, interesting to say the least.
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@Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
They are not here to inform.
Well they are really. They just don't.
Our society has lots of 'meant to' without actual doing.
We have some supposedly good journos / media types (hi @Smudge !) on here but sadly the standard across the board has the depth of a puddle.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.
